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But...but...this is SUCH wonderful progress!! skepticscott Oct 2014 #1
Do you think personally you are bound for hell? Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #2
I hope so. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #5
There no evidence that hell exists. trotsky Oct 2014 #7
Whether there is evidence of hell, in response to your original post I guess I was asking you if you Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #9
Not my words. trotsky Oct 2014 #11
You need to judge you, this is your walk to walk, not mine, not others. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #14
Well, as long as the Catholic Church is presuming to judge others skepticscott Oct 2014 #19
When the religious stop judging others - and attempting to control others... trotsky Oct 2014 #20
Right! Starboard Tack Oct 2014 #76
Says a man who is extremely judmental when it comes to religion Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #79
You bet your ass I am. trotsky Oct 2014 #80
When you say Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #81
Oh I see, when your church is spreading bigotry and hatred... trotsky Oct 2014 #82
Which is, of course, not what I said. Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2014 #83
Yeah, it is. trotsky Oct 2014 #84
Perhaps the message you are getting from Pope Francis is whatever you want to hear. mr blur Oct 2014 #21
Erm, I'm pretty sure the Church doesn't actually get to decide who is Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #3
Agreed, and neither does other humans. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #6
But what the RCC thinks Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #23
Then mark them on ignore Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #32
This is the saddest kind of apologetics to see skepticscott Oct 2014 #34
Where in the hell did you come up with this interruption? Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #35
Not sure why this is an interruption skepticscott Oct 2014 #39
I did not say the post you wrote, and you apparently do not know what Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #40
You're essentially saying bvf Oct 2014 #43
Apparently you did not follow the entire posts, it was to tell Trotsky to feel good about himself Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #59
Apparently I did. n/t bvf Oct 2014 #61
Perhaps you got yourself confused, never said what you posted. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #62
Yeesh. bvf Oct 2014 #73
You don't understand so see ya Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #74
'K bye! n/t bvf Oct 2014 #75
Why is it that Catholic apologists skepticscott Oct 2014 #46
Babbling, yep, you seem to babble and don't know what you are talking about, see ya. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #60
It may have been the case long ago but today, Live and Learn Oct 2014 #55
I'll tell that to my gay friends Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #37
perhaps I have missed how your post helps, could you explain how your Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #38
My post was sarcasm Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #64
How does this build self confidence? I have not defended the RCC, but defended personal choices. Thinkingabout Oct 2014 #66
Actually, the RCC is pretty damn sure they know. trotsky Oct 2014 #8
They don't teach that they decide who goes to hell. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #10
I'm pretty sure they do. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #12
I said they do not teach that they decide who goes to hell. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #13
It kind of is. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2014 #15
No, you are being presumptuous. rug Oct 2014 #17
Does the RCC teach that those who die Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #24
Yes. Do you know any? rug Oct 2014 #26
Does the RCC have a list of those things that are moral sins? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #27
People. Do you know of anyone who is going to hell? rug Oct 2014 #28
Catholic doctrine claims God judges the living and the dead, no one else. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #18
That's not the problem Cartoonist Oct 2014 #25
I am wellaware but my point is while they may claim that certain actions can get you to hell... hrmjustin Oct 2014 #30
So your god just willy-nilly throws bvf Oct 2014 #44
Silly fiction? What makes you so certain there is no afterlife? hrmjustin Oct 2014 #45
What makes you think there is? bvf Oct 2014 #47
I didn't ask you to.I asked you what makes you so certain. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #48
How certain are you that there is one? edhopper Oct 2014 #49
I am fairly certain but like most people of faith I have my doubts. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #50
Seeing no evidence that there is an afterlife edhopper Oct 2014 #52
Fair enough. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #54
OK, then (sigh). bvf Oct 2014 #51
I base my view of the afterlife on Christianity. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #53
Because I haven't seen any evidence. bvf Oct 2014 #56
I don't believe in hell. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #57
That's an excellent start. bvf Oct 2014 #58
"Here are some rules. Follow some. Break others if you like. It doesn't matter." Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #65
Only if it was about edhopper Oct 2014 #72
Really? One decided that I wasn't worth baptizing, because I was going to hell along with mom AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #67
Individuals can say what they like but Catholic doctrine is that God judges the living and dead. hrmjustin Oct 2014 #68
That doesn't seem to be how the rubber meets the road. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #69
Give the RCC another two or three generations. bvf Oct 2014 #4
They're still working their way up to the Middle Ages. mr blur Oct 2014 #22
On second thought, you're a lot closer. n/t bvf Oct 2014 #42
That's precisely why both this synod and the upcoming one are important. rug Oct 2014 #16
There's a Catch 22 in this equation, however theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #41
That's true but there is a caveat. rug Oct 2014 #63
But why does the RCC fight even civil marriages for LGBTs? theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #70
Because the peop'e who control it are politically conservative. rug Oct 2014 #71
"We've got no intention of ... going out of business" Laughing Mirror Oct 2014 #29
Heh, yeah, noticed that too. trotsky Oct 2014 #31
I can't tell if this is more wishfukl thinking or more bullshit. rug Oct 2014 #33
The default position is "bullshit" okasha Oct 2014 #36
'What is being proposed is not marriage' – Pope calls for defense of family theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #77
Ugh trotsky Oct 2014 #78
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