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NeoGreen

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78. How does that not fall into:

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 03:26 PM

Oct 2014

(and I quote)

"...indoctrination, the feeding of a parent's debatable and dubious opinions and biases into the mind of a child..."?

Whether you listen to their responses, afterward, or not?

Why is a review of all religions (or as many as can be reasonably presented in a parent/child conversation), and their internal and external inconsistencies, to be labeled as "indoctrination", but what you described as your modus operandi, not?

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5 Reasons Not To Indoctrinate Kids Against Religion [View all] rug Oct 2014 OP

'misleading their kids by speaking objectively???!!!' elleng Oct 2014 #1

+1 rock Oct 2014 #27

Religion can be used for healing or for destroying Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #2

Don't forget the stained glass! immoderate Oct 2014 #79

Hey, I want that stained glass, it's gorgeous! Imagine all the colors when the sun shines through! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #85

Lots of beautiful glass. I picked the smallest. immoderate Oct 2014 #86

Thanks for the link, stunning! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #87

I don't get this. As a parent you should teach your upaloopa Oct 2014 #3

Do you think you should only teach kids things cbayer Oct 2014 #4

I would teach what I think and why upaloopa Oct 2014 #6

So are you likely to teach your children your beliefs about cbayer Oct 2014 #7

I would teach that we all have to investigate and upaloopa Oct 2014 #8

I totally agree with that. cbayer Oct 2014 #9

I was baptized Catholic. I went to Catholic grade school, high school and college. upaloopa Oct 2014 #10

That's a fascinating story about the paths you and your brother took. cbayer Oct 2014 #11

I must credit even my Catholic teachers upaloopa Oct 2014 #13

Jesuits, by any chance? cbayer Oct 2014 #15

Marianists upaloopa Oct 2014 #16

I had to look that up. cbayer Oct 2014 #17

I suspect the instruction about atheism is rather lacking in most theist households Fumesucker Oct 2014 #25

That may be the case, but I would encourage parents to teach their kids both cbayer Oct 2014 #32

Given that the most knowledgeable group about religion in the US is atheists.. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #33

I don't agree with your statement. There are knowledgable atheists and knowledgable cbayer Oct 2014 #34

I wouldn't say something like that if it wasn't so.. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #35

I've seen that data. cbayer Oct 2014 #36

Nine percent isn't statistically significant? Fumesucker Oct 2014 #37

You misjudge me once again, FS. cbayer Oct 2014 #39

Yes. Your blithe refusal of facts, and false reclassification of data as 'statistically insignifican AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #45

You are a statistician also? Fumesucker Oct 2014 #47

I think there are a wide variety of stories posted here. cbayer Oct 2014 #58

As I pointed out, the only pushback against the negative stories about atheists comes from atheists Fumesucker Oct 2014 #88

I think that there is a lot more to being competent than just a grade on a test. cbayer Oct 2014 #92

QUIT BRINGING YOUR FACTS INTO THIS AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #44

Of course you should. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #84

This is a great point, actually. cbayer Oct 2014 #93

Excellent article. Tolerance and understanding of those who cbayer Oct 2014 #5

Tolerance and understanding of people is nice and all. Tolerance and understanding of shitty ideas AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #43

This was very interesting libodem Oct 2014 #12

None of my kids are religious either, though religion plays a role in their lives to some extent. cbayer Oct 2014 #14

They sound like wonderful kids libodem Oct 2014 #23

Agree that they come through us but they are definitely their own people. cbayer Oct 2014 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Cartoonist Oct 2014 #18

Had to delete that last one Cartoonist Oct 2014 #19

Ah, I missed it and I am so sad. cbayer Oct 2014 #22

Not teaching kids about religion because you don't like it is like not teaching kids about drugs.... NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #20

Great analogies. cbayer Oct 2014 #21

"At the very least, people should refrain from being negative about religion" AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #42

It apparently hurts people's feelings when they actually have to think about what they believe. Gore1FL Oct 2014 #46

Drugs and guns, when misused, can hurt or kill your children. djean111 Oct 2014 #26

They lied to you to get to your kid? Nice. Mariana Oct 2014 #30

Yes, they did. This was almost twenty years ago. I had been relocated to Durham from Illinois. djean111 Oct 2014 #31

I always said I'd handle it this way Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #28

I raised my kids with no religious beliefs riverbendviewgal Oct 2014 #29

Is this a thing to be worried about know? edhopper Oct 2014 #38

I think the argument can be made in both directions, to be honest. cbayer Oct 2014 #40

"we run the risk of creating a generation of anti-religious zealots" AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #41

If you indoctrinate your child that religion is no more than "magical bullshit", rug Oct 2014 #48

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Oct 2014 #49

Thanks for the info. rug Oct 2014 #50

itt; critical thinking skills = indoctrination AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #53

Did someone alert on yours? rug Oct 2014 #56

not that i'm aware. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #60

It is not indoctrination� NeoGreen Oct 2014 #59

"magical bullshit" is an inaccurate and incomplete opinion that requires a child rug Oct 2014 #61

Please... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #62

Did you miss it? rug Oct 2014 #63

No... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #64

Scroll up. That wasn't my term. rug Oct 2014 #65

Would you agree... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #66

Absolutely. rug Oct 2014 #70

Then... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #73

I always tell them what I think. More importantly, I tell them why I think it. rug Oct 2014 #76

How does that not fall into: NeoGreen Oct 2014 #78

Because by listening, I may learn that I'm wrong. rug Oct 2014 #81

You model of presentation... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #105

If none of it interests you, there's no need to bring it up. rug Oct 2014 #106

Hello... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #69

No, I was in court. rug Oct 2014 #71

Fair enough... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #74

"It's only a bloody parking offence." rug Oct 2014 #75

Meh... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #80

What do you teach your child about the ancient greek gods? AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #89

I start with their human attributes and limitations and move on from there. rug Oct 2014 #90

Interesting. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #104

Even in the Old Testament, God is ineffable. rug Oct 2014 #107

IMO this article is theistic non-sense. nt ladjf Oct 2014 #51

. . . . written by a nontheist. rug Oct 2014 #52

So the author says anyway. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #54

No true nontheist. rug Oct 2014 #55

I prefer the Dennett approach. longship Oct 2014 #57

Agree. Education is the key and the case she makes cbayer Oct 2014 #67

Anyway that can come about is good. longship Oct 2014 #68

A simple family experience - pinto Oct 2014 #72

What a bloody joke. Daemonaquila Oct 2014 #77

Excuse me for using a Hitler reference Cartoonist Oct 2014 #82

If you think religion, unspecified and unidentified, is the equivalent of nazism, rug Oct 2014 #91

I've made this point many times Cartoonist Oct 2014 #95

And the hits just keep coming. Christianity is worse than Nazism! cbayer Oct 2014 #96

And here's the best part Cartoonist Oct 2014 #98

Yes! There are numbers to support that christianity is worse than Nazism! cbayer Oct 2014 #99

Time for you to open your mind Cartoonist Oct 2014 #100

My mind is quite a bit more open than yours. cbayer Oct 2014 #101

The good people are welcome Cartoonist Oct 2014 #102

So gracious of you. Whether they "need" religion or not is not the point. cbayer Oct 2014 #103

Omg. You are now comparing religious beliefs to nazism. cbayer Oct 2014 #94

Here's the most apt comparison I can find Cartoonist Oct 2014 #97

Thank the Gods Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #83