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Fumesucker

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88. As I pointed out, the only pushback against the negative stories about atheists comes from atheists

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 07:27 PM

Oct 2014

Non Muslims on the other hand are lined up to push back against any negative stories about Muslims.

That was actually most of my point, the difference in attitude toward the cherry picking of negative stories.

When you tell me that what amounts to a full grade point difference B vs an A in religious knowledge is "not statistically significant" how can I take what you say seriously?

If you go in for surgery, all else being equal do you want the B student or the A student to be wielding the scalpel?

How about your airline pilot, you want the B student or the A student in the cockpit?

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5 Reasons Not To Indoctrinate Kids Against Religion [View all] rug Oct 2014 OP

'misleading their kids by speaking objectively???!!!' elleng Oct 2014 #1

+1 rock Oct 2014 #27

Religion can be used for healing or for destroying Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #2

Don't forget the stained glass! immoderate Oct 2014 #79

Hey, I want that stained glass, it's gorgeous! Imagine all the colors when the sun shines through! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #85

Lots of beautiful glass. I picked the smallest. immoderate Oct 2014 #86

Thanks for the link, stunning! Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #87

I don't get this. As a parent you should teach your upaloopa Oct 2014 #3

Do you think you should only teach kids things cbayer Oct 2014 #4

I would teach what I think and why upaloopa Oct 2014 #6

So are you likely to teach your children your beliefs about cbayer Oct 2014 #7

I would teach that we all have to investigate and upaloopa Oct 2014 #8

I totally agree with that. cbayer Oct 2014 #9

I was baptized Catholic. I went to Catholic grade school, high school and college. upaloopa Oct 2014 #10

That's a fascinating story about the paths you and your brother took. cbayer Oct 2014 #11

I must credit even my Catholic teachers upaloopa Oct 2014 #13

Jesuits, by any chance? cbayer Oct 2014 #15

Marianists upaloopa Oct 2014 #16

I had to look that up. cbayer Oct 2014 #17

I suspect the instruction about atheism is rather lacking in most theist households Fumesucker Oct 2014 #25

That may be the case, but I would encourage parents to teach their kids both cbayer Oct 2014 #32

Given that the most knowledgeable group about religion in the US is atheists.. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #33

I don't agree with your statement. There are knowledgable atheists and knowledgable cbayer Oct 2014 #34

I wouldn't say something like that if it wasn't so.. Fumesucker Oct 2014 #35

I've seen that data. cbayer Oct 2014 #36

Nine percent isn't statistically significant? Fumesucker Oct 2014 #37

You misjudge me once again, FS. cbayer Oct 2014 #39

Yes. Your blithe refusal of facts, and false reclassification of data as 'statistically insignifican AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #45

You are a statistician also? Fumesucker Oct 2014 #47

I think there are a wide variety of stories posted here. cbayer Oct 2014 #58

As I pointed out, the only pushback against the negative stories about atheists comes from atheists Fumesucker Oct 2014 #88

I think that there is a lot more to being competent than just a grade on a test. cbayer Oct 2014 #92

QUIT BRINGING YOUR FACTS INTO THIS AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #44

Of course you should. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #84

This is a great point, actually. cbayer Oct 2014 #93

Excellent article. Tolerance and understanding of those who cbayer Oct 2014 #5

Tolerance and understanding of people is nice and all. Tolerance and understanding of shitty ideas AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #43

This was very interesting libodem Oct 2014 #12

None of my kids are religious either, though religion plays a role in their lives to some extent. cbayer Oct 2014 #14

They sound like wonderful kids libodem Oct 2014 #23

Agree that they come through us but they are definitely their own people. cbayer Oct 2014 #24

This message was self-deleted by its author Cartoonist Oct 2014 #18

Had to delete that last one Cartoonist Oct 2014 #19

Ah, I missed it and I am so sad. cbayer Oct 2014 #22

Not teaching kids about religion because you don't like it is like not teaching kids about drugs.... NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #20

Great analogies. cbayer Oct 2014 #21

"At the very least, people should refrain from being negative about religion" AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #42

It apparently hurts people's feelings when they actually have to think about what they believe. Gore1FL Oct 2014 #46

Drugs and guns, when misused, can hurt or kill your children. djean111 Oct 2014 #26

They lied to you to get to your kid? Nice. Mariana Oct 2014 #30

Yes, they did. This was almost twenty years ago. I had been relocated to Durham from Illinois. djean111 Oct 2014 #31

I always said I'd handle it this way Prophet 451 Oct 2014 #28

I raised my kids with no religious beliefs riverbendviewgal Oct 2014 #29

Is this a thing to be worried about know? edhopper Oct 2014 #38

I think the argument can be made in both directions, to be honest. cbayer Oct 2014 #40

"we run the risk of creating a generation of anti-religious zealots" AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #41

If you indoctrinate your child that religion is no more than "magical bullshit", rug Oct 2014 #48

And the jury results are in... aikoaiko Oct 2014 #49

Thanks for the info. rug Oct 2014 #50

itt; critical thinking skills = indoctrination AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #53

Did someone alert on yours? rug Oct 2014 #56

not that i'm aware. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #60

It is not indoctrination� NeoGreen Oct 2014 #59

"magical bullshit" is an inaccurate and incomplete opinion that requires a child rug Oct 2014 #61

Please... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #62

Did you miss it? rug Oct 2014 #63

No... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #64

Scroll up. That wasn't my term. rug Oct 2014 #65

Would you agree... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #66

Absolutely. rug Oct 2014 #70

Then... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #73

I always tell them what I think. More importantly, I tell them why I think it. rug Oct 2014 #76

How does that not fall into: NeoGreen Oct 2014 #78

Because by listening, I may learn that I'm wrong. rug Oct 2014 #81

You model of presentation... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #105

If none of it interests you, there's no need to bring it up. rug Oct 2014 #106

Hello... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #69

No, I was in court. rug Oct 2014 #71

Fair enough... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #74

"It's only a bloody parking offence." rug Oct 2014 #75

Meh... NeoGreen Oct 2014 #80

What do you teach your child about the ancient greek gods? AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #89

I start with their human attributes and limitations and move on from there. rug Oct 2014 #90

Interesting. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #104

Even in the Old Testament, God is ineffable. rug Oct 2014 #107

IMO this article is theistic non-sense. nt ladjf Oct 2014 #51

. . . . written by a nontheist. rug Oct 2014 #52

So the author says anyway. AtheistCrusader Oct 2014 #54

No true nontheist. rug Oct 2014 #55

I prefer the Dennett approach. longship Oct 2014 #57

Agree. Education is the key and the case she makes cbayer Oct 2014 #67

Anyway that can come about is good. longship Oct 2014 #68

A simple family experience - pinto Oct 2014 #72

What a bloody joke. Daemonaquila Oct 2014 #77

Excuse me for using a Hitler reference Cartoonist Oct 2014 #82

If you think religion, unspecified and unidentified, is the equivalent of nazism, rug Oct 2014 #91

I've made this point many times Cartoonist Oct 2014 #95

And the hits just keep coming. Christianity is worse than Nazism! cbayer Oct 2014 #96

And here's the best part Cartoonist Oct 2014 #98

Yes! There are numbers to support that christianity is worse than Nazism! cbayer Oct 2014 #99

Time for you to open your mind Cartoonist Oct 2014 #100

My mind is quite a bit more open than yours. cbayer Oct 2014 #101

The good people are welcome Cartoonist Oct 2014 #102

So gracious of you. Whether they "need" religion or not is not the point. cbayer Oct 2014 #103

Omg. You are now comparing religious beliefs to nazism. cbayer Oct 2014 #94

Here's the most apt comparison I can find Cartoonist Oct 2014 #97

Thank the Gods Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2014 #83