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Humanist_Activist

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15. Why would homosexuality have to be a choice? Not to mention the fact that...
Fri Oct 31, 2014, 02:44 PM
Oct 2014

co-habitation, "open" relationships, etc. aren't exactly new, indeed, cohabitation was so common in the past that many countries acknowledged "common law" marriages that conveyed some marriage rights to cohabiting heterosexual couples. Open relationships were more or less treated on a don't ask, don't tell basis.

So the only thing new on the list, if you want to get technical, is same sex marriage.

You know, generally, I wouldn't give a fuck about his medieval thoughts on sexuality and marriage if his godsforsaken bishops wouldn't campaign to restrict marriage equality for others. I don't see him censoring or even reprimanding Archbishop Lewis Zeigler for blaming ebola on gays. The LGBT community IS singled out by far too many churches, including the Catholic Church. Want to claim your church isn't anti-gay and homophobic? Why not acknowledge that it currently is precisely those things, and then try to work to eliminate those elements in the Church.

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The Catholic church let's members 'buy an annulment' even after a long marriage. Tikki Oct 2014 #1
This is true, thus the use of the word "bastardize" by Francis is certainly ironic. MADem Nov 2014 #28
No dog whistle. He's just saying gay love isn't real love. arcane1 Oct 2014 #2
That can't be it! He's pro-gay rights! I know, I was told so on DU, so it must be... Humanist_Activist Oct 2014 #3
Exactly. trotsky Oct 2014 #4
"...greatness of the love of marriage." atreides1 Oct 2014 #5
Oh my. beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #6
Yes, and how long before skepticscott Oct 2014 #9
You mean the non-theist apologists? beam me up scottie Oct 2014 #11
dear pope, god and mary committed adultery behind Joseph's back nt msongs Oct 2014 #7
Six months ago he opined that half of Catholic marriages are probably invalid. rug Oct 2014 #8
So when he talks about "new forms" of unions, what IS he talking about? Humanist_Activist Oct 2014 #10
Cohabitation, serial relationships, open relationships, etc. rug Oct 2014 #12
And same sex marriages and relationships aren't included in that list? Humanist_Activist Oct 2014 #13
Not explicitly, no. Unless you're suggesting homosexuality is a choice. rug Oct 2014 #14
Why would homosexuality have to be a choice? Not to mention the fact that... Humanist_Activist Oct 2014 #15
Because he is comparing straght sexuality to sacramentsl marriage. rug Oct 2014 #16
So wait, let me see if I have this straight in my head.... Humanist_Activist Oct 2014 #17
Yes, that's my take on it. rug Oct 2014 #18
First off, I didn't know the only real Catholics are straight Catholics, good to know that... Humanist_Activist Oct 2014 #20
Since those are your words, I'll leave you to figure them out. rug Oct 2014 #21
But that isn't the background for those remarks, that's provided by the article I linked to... Humanist_Activist Oct 2014 #22
Marriage is a legal construct the Catholic Church does not own, and can fuck right off about. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #23
Who said it did? It is a sacrament. That is something he is competent to speak about. rug Nov 2014 #26
It is a sacrament TO HIM/catholics. Doesn't apply to anyone else. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #29
He's taliking to Catholics. Cover your ears. rug Nov 2014 #30
About contemporary, non-Catholic society, are you being purposely obtuse? n/t Humanist_Activist Nov 2014 #31
No, are you? rug Nov 2014 #32
You would have to be obtuse, you are deliberately ignoring the context of the article I posted... Humanist_Activist Nov 2014 #33
Ah, is there anything he doesn't know? mr blur Oct 2014 #19
It is just a cabal of conservative cardinals holding blank frank back. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #24
Don't forget their secret army of mafioso skepticscott Nov 2014 #25
Yes, Catholics support contract murder. rug Nov 2014 #27
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