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NYC_SKP

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83. In this subthread, I'm not sure you needed rug to be confused.

Sat Nov 1, 2014, 10:11 AM

Nov 2014

Analogies, similes, metaphors, and comparisons.

Each has a very different meaning and role.

The first three are types of comparisons, but the terms are not interchangeable.

You have implied that an analogy exists between the treatment of pirates and the treatment of Native Americans.

However, this fails the test as the pirate punishments have no territorial or native cultural component, no racial or ethnic component, and were punishments for particular breaches of the law.

The Native American treatment that you failingly wish to compare in analogy form to the pirate case is completely different, so different that I'm going to stop bothering to un-confuse you.

Go grab a Miller Analogies Test study guide, that should help you.

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Inmate Sues Prison Claiming His Religious Liberty Entitles Him To Dress Like A Pirate [View all] rug Oct 2014 OP

Pirates were criminals best left hanging along the docks.... Historic NY Oct 2014 #1

If I recall correctly, okasha Oct 2014 #8

Stay classy, okasha Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #11

Are you actually comparing Native American religious practices to this clown's masquerade? rug Oct 2014 #14

Do you actually not understand analogies? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #20

Do you not understand what an analogy is? rug Oct 2014 #40

How is it not? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #45

Here's an analogy for you. rug Oct 2014 #46

Thank you for that. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #47

And a simile is not an analogy. rug Oct 2014 #48

Right. And you said "Here's an analogy for you" Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #49

And you said nazism is an analog to religion. rug Oct 2014 #50

No, that's not what I said. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #51

You're right. Mea culpa. rug Oct 2014 #55

Cool enough. You had me confused. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #58

In this subthread, I'm not sure you needed rug to be confused. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #83

I fully understand Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #123

Yes , he is. okasha Oct 2014 #22

He's operating on the premise that whatever sticks, he'll use. rug Oct 2014 #41

Last I heard, okasha Oct 2014 #21

So religions only exist if you hear of them? Heddi Oct 2014 #27

This is the lamest piece of manufactured outrage okasha Oct 2014 #31

it will sadden you to know I didn't alert on you Heddi Oct 2014 #43

And apparently a jury did not. okasha Oct 2014 #57

Nope. NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #78

"Just thinking out loud"? You don't appear to be thinking at all. mr blur Nov 2014 #124

How about this? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #28

How about this? okasha Oct 2014 #32

Timestamps are awesome Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #33

Oh, c'mon. There is no comparison or analogy here. cbayer Oct 2014 #24

"it's a made up thing that is meant to make fun of religions" Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #29

No, I didn't say any such thing okasha Oct 2014 #35

We are going to play the grammar game? Awesome. Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #37

So you really believe I said thst this man is a pirate? okasha Oct 2014 #39

No Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #44

Goblin, you're not stupid. okasha Oct 2014 #56

Then what did your response possible mean? Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #59

It's easy to see EvilAL Nov 2014 #114

no no no she didn't mean that at all. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #125

You forgot number 4 Rob H. Oct 2014 #42

Good information and appreciated. cbayer Oct 2014 #62

I'm not dismissing it because it is made up, I am just saying cbayer Oct 2014 #60

If you don't know... tonedevil Oct 2014 #65

I did not know that, but it sure sounds like the "joke" side of FSM. cbayer Oct 2014 #66

I don't honestly know... tonedevil Oct 2014 #68

I think it supposed to sound like that, but it's a parody. cbayer Nov 2014 #85

And some of us believe... NeoGreen Nov 2014 #116

And it is perfectly within your rights to believe that. cbayer Nov 2014 #117

That FSM... NeoGreen Nov 2014 #118

Who said it was less valid? cbayer Nov 2014 #119

uhh..ok... NeoGreen Nov 2014 #120

I'm not making that argument, but you can if you want. cbayer Nov 2014 #121

Fair enough (nt) NeoGreen Nov 2014 #122

I'm ordained in the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #79

Do you believe this? rug Nov 2014 #84

Is it harder to believe that... tonedevil Nov 2014 #101

Yes. Since you were tagged to post a reply, next time supply an answer. rug Nov 2014 #102

I'm not an ordained... tonedevil Nov 2014 #103

Thank you. rug Nov 2014 #104

Sure, why not. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #105

Evidence. rug Nov 2014 #106

I'm sorry, did you just ask me for *evidence*? AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #107

Why, yes I did. rug Nov 2014 #108

Sure. I've got some evidence. There's some in my pantry. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #109

Poptarts are evidence only of poor choices. rug Nov 2014 #110

No no no. Nothing as barbaric as that. Let's see, we've got some Fusilli bucati, and Spaghettoni AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #111

Watch your carbs, AC. rug Nov 2014 #112

Man, you ain't just whistlin' dixie.. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #113

Oh, I see what you did there! mr blur Oct 2014 #13

Disingenuity? rug Oct 2014 #15

Is the minority group which refer to members of the FSM religion? cbayer Oct 2014 #25

Seriously? You're stating this man should drown for this? Heddi Oct 2014 #18

Seriously? You're stating that this man is a pirate? okasha Oct 2014 #23

well you obviously did Heddi Oct 2014 #26

No, I didn't. okasha Oct 2014 #30

"It's unfortunate that Nebraska has no tidal estuaries." Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #34

It might have some significance if the inmate okasha Oct 2014 #36

No. I don't think he is a pirate Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #38

When you're stuck down a deep hole, it's best to stop digging. mr blur Oct 2014 #69

True. okasha Oct 2014 #73

Inmates like to sue for violation of their religious rights. Shrike47 Oct 2014 #2

Nope - definitely an Erisian, not a Pastafarian. Daemonaquila Oct 2014 #3

Hey, he's in for assault, not starting the Trojan War. rug Oct 2014 #4

Not all Flying-Spaghetti-Monsterians are criminals struggle4progress Oct 2014 #5

Why the snarky... tonedevil Oct 2014 #6

Because the entire concept is itself a sham intended to point out how ludicrous religion is. rug Oct 2014 #10

One man's sham Goblinmonger Oct 2014 #12

If that man is incaple of critical observation. rug Oct 2014 #16

+1 cleanhippie Oct 2014 #19

And it works. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #80

As this stunt demonstrates. rug Nov 2014 #82

To be honest, I think any and all incarcerated persons should dress however they like theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #7

It could be worse. He could be asking to participate in ritualized cannibalism. n/t Gore1FL Oct 2014 #9

Agree that he doesn't help the cause in any way. cbayer Oct 2014 #17

What "cause" ? notrightatall Oct 2014 #53

The cause of decreasing discrimination against nonbelievers. cbayer Oct 2014 #61

How do you get off dismissing the veracity of his belief? notrightatall Oct 2014 #64

Because I've never seen a case of anyone actually believing this. cbayer Oct 2014 #67

So you are the arbitor of "real" religious belief??? notrightatall Oct 2014 #70

This is an openly admitted made up "religion" that exists to make a point. cbayer Nov 2014 #87

What I or you " know" is irrelevant to another's beliefs. notrightatall Nov 2014 #89

Whatever. If you want to make this equivalent to a religion, go for it. cbayer Nov 2014 #91

It seems you have exposed yourself as intolerant of other religions. notrightatall Nov 2014 #92

I'm not intolerant of other religions. Where do you get that idea. cbayer Nov 2014 #95

In this very post! notrightatall Nov 2014 #97

It is meant to be hilarious. You are really missing the point here. cbayer Nov 2014 #98

That is your narrow opinion. notrightatall Nov 2014 #99

It's not my narrow opinion. It's the widely held and generally agreed upon understanding about cbayer Nov 2014 #100

You revealed upthread you didn't know a thing about the history of FSM, so color me unimpressed AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #81

Every bit as valid as ANY other religious freedom request. notrightatall Oct 2014 #52

How about Last Rites on Death Row? rug Oct 2014 #54

Yup,every bit. notrightatall Oct 2014 #71

Under what rationale would you refuse last rites to a condemned prisoner on the night he is to die? rug Oct 2014 #74

I would not. notrightatall Oct 2014 #75

Then there is your exception. rug Oct 2014 #76

What is your stance on the 1st amendment as it addresses cbayer Oct 2014 #63

Your freedom to practice it does make it in any way real. notrightatall Oct 2014 #72

That was not my question. cbayer Nov 2014 #86

Religious beliefs harm humanity. notrightatall Nov 2014 #88

Religious beliefs also help humanity, often providing goods and services to the cbayer Nov 2014 #93

No, that is just good people doing good work. notrightatall Nov 2014 #94

No it's religious people and groups doing good work. cbayer Nov 2014 #96

Yet when religious people and groups do bad things you are one who quickly states cleanhippie Nov 2014 #115

I don't think he has a winning arrrrrrgument. n/t PoliticAverse Oct 2014 #77

Good article, worth a read. Have no clue to the inmate's intent but the article raises some points pinto Nov 2014 #90