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NYC_SKP

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4. Yup. Except for numbers 2, 7, and 10, all are applicable to all sides of any religious debate.

Reply to rug (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 1, 2014, 11:02 AM

Nov 2014

At least as they apply to heated and unproductive debates.

No doubt, each group has it's share of legitimate victims of bad treatment.

And, probably, among each group are disruptive types who exhibit the defensive behaviors but were never victims.

My two points are:

Like Islamic terrorists, or overzealous Christian ministers, the most visible or noisiest "representatives" of a belief or non-belief system are decidedly NOT representative of others, and,

Those same noisy ones seem to exhibit behaviors similar to people who have been traumatized.

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I consider myself mostly agnostic, unknowing but respectful of ALL other religions.... NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #1

Hmm, did you get to #9? rug Nov 2014 #2

Yup. Except for numbers 2, 7, and 10, all are applicable to all sides of any religious debate. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #4

"exhibit many of the same signs we see in cases of child abuse, spousal abuse, and PTSD generally" Fumesucker Nov 2014 #3

I agree with you. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #5

I think some of that is because the second group tends to deny the experience of the first Fumesucker Nov 2014 #7

Would you also agree that belief may not be a choice for a lot of people? cbayer Nov 2014 #9

I suspect the "natural" proportion of believers in US society is lower than the numbers we see.. Fumesucker Nov 2014 #11

I agree that it is very difficult to get any definitive answer on this. cbayer Nov 2014 #12

In this one he talks about the culture shock of being where everyone looks like him, in Korea Fumesucker Nov 2014 #13

It would be completely disorienting. cbayer Nov 2014 #14

My point is if you don't share certain cultural cues with people you "should" share them with Fumesucker Nov 2014 #15

I think I understand what you are saying. cbayer Nov 2014 #16

Fitting somewhere culturally is more important even than fitting appearance wise Fumesucker Nov 2014 #17

But I think things are changing. cbayer Nov 2014 #18

I'm a secular humanist who's in love with a committed Methodist. no_hypocrisy Nov 2014 #6

Your relationship sounds wonderful. cbayer Nov 2014 #10

Really well done and worth the read. cbayer Nov 2014 #8