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Silent3

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32. All you're proving...
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:51 AM
Mar 2012

...is that no matter what is argued, you'll argue for words being used in the argument to be just as slippery as you need them to be so that you're right (but not so slippery that the person you disagree with can be right at the same time).

I can remain perfectly aware that "England" is a less-than-totally-precise mental construct, that its people aren't all in agreement on the issues, that they wouldn't even all agree who is English and which patches of ground belong to England and who speaks for England, yet I can still also understand that, by and large, when I say "England established colonies in North America" that I'm communicating a clear, understandable concept that provides useful information, and that even people who despise English imperialism will still know what I'm talking about.

There's nothing "magical" about that at all. People by and large can understand what I mean when I say "science has standards of evidence" without, unlike you, thinking that this means I've declared myself the Emperor of Science, or that I think that science is a personified being. Only you seem to suffer from such confusion, and the only thing I can't decide is if you pretend to suffer from that confusion for the sake of evasive argumentation, or if you really are that confused.

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Quantum soul [View all] tama Mar 2012 OP
The Swami has new clothes! immoderate Mar 2012 #1
Well tama Mar 2012 #2
So I find this interesting in your OP and in this post Goblinmonger Mar 2012 #3
No, tama Mar 2012 #7
Certainly science and spirituality can co-exist, and do so beautifully cbayer Mar 2012 #9
Spirits do not submit themselves to scientific study. immoderate Mar 2012 #13
Wow, it must be amazing to know so much of everything that is known. cbayer Mar 2012 #15
Merely an illusion I create by sticking to the obvious. immoderate Mar 2012 #25
Spirituality is a Rohrschach word skepticscott Mar 2012 #4
I think everyone should remember this post whenever you tout science and the evidence it Leontius Mar 2012 #5
Not only is this post not directly relevant to that skepticscott Mar 2012 #6
Answers tama Mar 2012 #8
A quantum computer does not continue to compute after the physical system is destroyed. FarCenter Mar 2012 #10
Quantum computers tama Mar 2012 #23
That would be David Deutsche FarCenter Mar 2012 #24
Some info on Stuart Hameroff LongTomH Mar 2012 #11
Good stuff, thanks for the links. bananas Mar 2012 #17
"I am not offering or suggesting any proof, just a plausibility argument." Silent3 Mar 2012 #12
I've been taught tama Mar 2012 #14
While nothing is ever 100% positively proved... Silent3 Mar 2012 #16
Yeah tama Mar 2012 #18
Suppose an average of 5.7 angels can dance on the head of a pin... Silent3 Mar 2012 #19
So in other words tama Mar 2012 #20
Show me results Silent3 Mar 2012 #21
What is "unfair" about your prejudice tama Mar 2012 #22
The practical results show that the intellectual part... Silent3 Mar 2012 #26
"Science" is abstract noun tama Mar 2012 #29
What a silly diversion Silent3 Mar 2012 #30
Well tama Mar 2012 #31
All you're proving... Silent3 Mar 2012 #32
I'd like to suggest that you may have posted this in the wrong group laconicsax Mar 2012 #27
I'd like to suggest tama Mar 2012 #28
Confessed bias? LOL, that's rich. laconicsax Mar 2012 #35
I have no problems with atheists tama Mar 2012 #38
That's a wholly reasonable position. laconicsax Mar 2012 #41
E.g. tama Mar 2012 #43
Someone else's thread being locked as off-topic is censoring you? laconicsax Mar 2012 #51
I think it's fine here. cbayer Mar 2012 #33
I was only suggesting that the OP may get more of the discussion he wants elsewhere. laconicsax Mar 2012 #36
Quantum consciousness... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #34
Perhaps tama Mar 2012 #37
Nope... not referring to that... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #39
So tama Mar 2012 #40
Theoretical examination of quantum coherence in a photosynthetic system at physiological temperature FarCenter Mar 2012 #42
Yup tama Mar 2012 #44
Uh. oh. Got us a ... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #45
I'm sorry tama Mar 2012 #46
Anton Zeilinger would qualify as a top scientist. Davies not so much. FarCenter Mar 2012 #50
I'll have to read more, but at first glance it is not persuasive. FarCenter Mar 2012 #49
No... anomalies don't falsify... Joseph8th Mar 2012 #53
Well that's interesting. westerebus Mar 2012 #47
Sensing and consciousness tama Mar 2012 #48
Communication is 80% non verbal, so I understand. westerebus Mar 2012 #52
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