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struggle4progress

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14. It's a public speaking class assignment for a speech class. Grading criteria

Sat Nov 8, 2014, 09:26 PM

Nov 2014

were likely to include matters such as delivery and ability to follow script. The kids have EVERY RIGHT to say or not say the pledge but if they were offered an alternative assignment in advance, they won't get anywhere at all with the complaint because nobody forced them to say the pledge. I think the Pledge is a silly waste of time and the addition "under God" is self-righteous nonsense. When I was in high school during the Vietnam war I wouldn't recite the pledge or even stand when it was recited, and somebody or other was always threatening discipline for that: I stared them in the eye and tell them I didn't believe in saluting a piece of cloth. The bottom line IMO is that this is petty adolescent rebellion, probably coupled with petty adult response, and followed by petty adolescent whining: it's an all-around loser to think about it all

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My kid will say "Under Canada" RobertSeattle Nov 2014 #1

Ha! louis-t Nov 2014 #2

There's no 'up' in space. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #20

ROFL! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #37

"Baker offered an alternative assignment to the students ahead of time and neither accepted" struggle4progress Nov 2014 #3

What's your point? Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #9

It's a public speaking class assignment for a speech class. Grading criteria struggle4progress Nov 2014 #14

So if, in my speech class, Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #17

But should saying it be a part of the curriculum? cbayer Nov 2014 #18

I don't know exactly what the assignment or the alternative was. But if the students affected struggle4progress Nov 2014 #27

We could do with more 'petty adolescent rebellion' in this world. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #21

For saying what? For saying "I think the Pledge is a silly waste of time and the addition struggle4progress Nov 2014 #25

I already identified the relevant part of your post. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #28

I paid my petty adolescent rebellion dues in full years ago. It's a stage many people go through. struggle4progress Nov 2014 #29

While I think the school is wrong, there is one part of this story that disturbs me. cbayer Nov 2014 #4

In court, some affirmation, be it on a book or not, is required. rug Nov 2014 #5

I think there is an epic struggle going on between a teacher cbayer Nov 2014 #6

Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to say the Pledge FLyellowdog Nov 2014 #7

Interesting. I suspect they would be required to say it in this class, though. cbayer Nov 2014 #8

So atheists can't lead the pledge? Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #10

I totally agree with you. cbayer Nov 2014 #11

Awesome. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #12

I think I was unclear. cbayer Nov 2014 #13

I'm glad the students are standing up, too. Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #15

Great response to her and kudos to her for getting involved. cbayer Nov 2014 #16

"Question authority." AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #23

On the off chance you haven't seen this: rug Nov 2014 #19

Principle is important. To some of us. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #22

Well, of course, he or she runs the school ... kwassa Nov 2014 #24

How much do you want to bet the teacher considers herself a patriot? Kalidurga Nov 2014 #26

She's an ass who probably drinks a lot of tea with her patriotism. rug Nov 2014 #30

Properly would be the way it was originally written no? Kalidurga Nov 2014 #32

Oh the irony Kelvin Mace Nov 2014 #31

Very well said. cbayer Nov 2014 #33

Contact DontSayThePledge.com Hifi Nov 2014 #34

Thanks Hifi. cbayer Nov 2014 #35

Welcome to DU. rug Nov 2014 #36