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In reply to the discussion: Jesuits call for repeal of 2nd Amendment [View all]NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)37. What Does the Bible Say About the Second Amendment?
Is Self-Defense Biblical?
By Mary Fairchild
Christianity Expert
Link to the list, found by just Googling around: http://libertyfellowshipmt.com/Resources/SecondAmendmentPastors.aspx
By Mary Fairchild
Christianity Expert
Peacemakers or Pacifists?
Rendered in the English Standard Version, Jesus told Peter to "put your sword back in its place." Wilsbach explained, "That place would be at his side. Jesus didn't say, 'Throw it away.' After all, he had just ordered the disciples to arm themselves. The reason ... was obviousto protect the lives of the disciples, not the life of the Son of God. Jesus was saying 'Peter, this is not the right time for a fight.'"
It's interesting to note that Peter openly carried his sword, a weapon similar to the type Roman soldiers employed at the time. Jesus knew Peter was carrying a sword. He allowed this, but forbid him to use it aggressively. Most importantly, Jesus did not want Peter to resist the inevitable will of God the Father, which our Savior knew would be fulfilled by his arrest and eventual death on the cross. Scripture is quite clear that Christians are called to be peacemakers (Matthew 5
), and to turn the other cheek (Matthew 5:38-40). Thus, any aggressive or offensive violence was not the purpose for which Jesus had instructed them to carry a sidearm just hours earlier.
Life and Death, Good and Evil
A sword, as with a handgun or any firearm, in and of itself is not aggressive or violent. It is simply an object; it can be used either for good or for evil. Any weapon in the hands of someone intent on evil can be used for violent or wicked purposes. In fact, a weapon is not required for violence. The Bible doesn't tell us what kind of weapon the first murderer, Cain , used to kill his brother Abel in Genesis 4. Cain could have used a stone, a club, a sword, or perhaps even his bare hands. A weapon was not mentioned in the account.
Weapons in the hands of law-abiding, peace-loving citizens can be used for good purposes such as hunting, recreational and competitive sports, and keeping peace. Beyond self-defense, a person properly trained and prepared to use a firearm can actually deter crime, employing the weapon to protect innocent lives and prevent violent offenders from succeeding in their crimes.
More at the link.
http://christianity.about.com/od/whatdoesthebiblesay/a/The-Right-To-Bear-Arms_2.htm
Rendered in the English Standard Version, Jesus told Peter to "put your sword back in its place." Wilsbach explained, "That place would be at his side. Jesus didn't say, 'Throw it away.' After all, he had just ordered the disciples to arm themselves. The reason ... was obviousto protect the lives of the disciples, not the life of the Son of God. Jesus was saying 'Peter, this is not the right time for a fight.'"
It's interesting to note that Peter openly carried his sword, a weapon similar to the type Roman soldiers employed at the time. Jesus knew Peter was carrying a sword. He allowed this, but forbid him to use it aggressively. Most importantly, Jesus did not want Peter to resist the inevitable will of God the Father, which our Savior knew would be fulfilled by his arrest and eventual death on the cross. Scripture is quite clear that Christians are called to be peacemakers (Matthew 5
Life and Death, Good and Evil
A sword, as with a handgun or any firearm, in and of itself is not aggressive or violent. It is simply an object; it can be used either for good or for evil. Any weapon in the hands of someone intent on evil can be used for violent or wicked purposes. In fact, a weapon is not required for violence. The Bible doesn't tell us what kind of weapon the first murderer, Cain , used to kill his brother Abel in Genesis 4. Cain could have used a stone, a club, a sword, or perhaps even his bare hands. A weapon was not mentioned in the account.
Weapons in the hands of law-abiding, peace-loving citizens can be used for good purposes such as hunting, recreational and competitive sports, and keeping peace. Beyond self-defense, a person properly trained and prepared to use a firearm can actually deter crime, employing the weapon to protect innocent lives and prevent violent offenders from succeeding in their crimes.
More at the link.
http://christianity.about.com/od/whatdoesthebiblesay/a/The-Right-To-Bear-Arms_2.htm
Link to the list, found by just Googling around: http://libertyfellowshipmt.com/Resources/SecondAmendmentPastors.aspx
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Is your post about Jesuits or is it about gun control? You posted yesterday in the RKBA....
NYC_SKP
Nov 2014
#14
Because if this was representative of their policy or doctrine, you could probably find something
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2014
#104
It is interesting that you are still characterizing this as 'the jesuits'.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2014
#117
No it isn't. It's religious people with an opinion on a political issue.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2014
#62
Well, I've heard said 'God made man, Samuel Colt made them equal', but really, it's a americanism.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2014
#70
Minors... actually, people under 21, are not allowed to carry a pistol by law.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2014
#97
Here's a very readable pros-cons article from a non-denominational but spiritual writer.
NYC_SKP
Nov 2014
#22
If if we're all soooooper lucky, you'll dig it all up and come post it here too.
AtheistCrusader
Nov 2014
#68
Which UU church is on your long list of hideous fundamentalist churches?
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2014
#41
The list was just a grab from the Intertube, but then you knew that. They aren't my "data points".
NYC_SKP
Nov 2014
#46
Of course, because UU is just about as liberal as a christian denomination gets.
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2014
#53
The thing about gungeoneers is that they invariably cough up the rightwing
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2014
#51
What's the matter Warren? Losing your argument? Guilt by association? That's your foil?
NYC_SKP
Nov 2014
#47
it isn't every day I see somebody using a rightwing hate site as their source
Warren Stupidity
Nov 2014
#48