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AtheistCrusader

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100. Really? Ive always been impressed by the number of potential allies

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 03:54 PM

Nov 2014

That pop up and rip into the church (and bring concerns to the table I had even thought of) that have no interest in venturing here, into the religion folder.

On the flipside, most of the apologists are familiar faces, that are already ensconced in here.

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So, all theists are either adherents of evil cults, or they're moving the goal posts? [View all] TygrBright Nov 2014 OP

Interesting strawman you made there. But will it fight back? Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #1

I have no idea. TygrBright Nov 2014 #3

That doesn't say "all theists are adherents of evil cults", it says the bible is full of bad ideas muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #18

I think that some folks are on the wrong website. stone space Nov 2014 #22

Yet, I can find apologists for right-wing religions running free right here on DU. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #51

I wish it didn't fly in GD, but frequently it does. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #99

Really? Ive always been impressed by the number of potential allies AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #100

I've addressed problems in allegedly "higher" spiritual/metaphorical Christianity too Brettongarcia Nov 2014 #79

I'll bet you don't get very far if you tell... stone space Nov 2014 #92

Since you used my post as an example, how is it a generalization to point out the Bible is full Humanist_Activist Nov 2014 #126

It's unfortunate you didn't get an answer to your question. trotsky Nov 2014 #138

Fun thread edhopper Nov 2014 #2

At least a few do Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #13

Someone has an opinion Lordquinton Nov 2014 #14

That's called "shifting the goalposts" Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #15

I'm assuming Dorian Gray Nov 2014 #17

Pointing to a DU atheist who wants to ban religion is as fair as... stone space Nov 2014 #20

And theists like the RCC hierarchy work to support laws... trotsky Nov 2014 #19

Yes, they do Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #21

You should probably restrict your criticism to that poster, then. trotsky Nov 2014 #29

I'm not doing either Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #66

Again, I don't think there is any kind of equivalence. trotsky Nov 2014 #68

No, that's not it Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #74

You are correct, you aren't claiming there is an equivalence. trotsky Nov 2014 #75

*sigh* Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #77

Well, make up your mind. trotsky Nov 2014 #78

... Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #84

Good, I'm glad we agree on the relative importance of these issues. trotsky Nov 2014 #85

Believe it or not, I try to avoid it n/t Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #91

Does this include folks who thank God to be alive after... stone space Nov 2014 #87

It sure does. trotsky Nov 2014 #88

I see. You want to discuss your own words. stone space Nov 2014 #89

No, that would appear to be what you're doing. trotsky Nov 2014 #90

You criticise somnebody for thanking God to be alive after being shot, ... stone space Nov 2014 #94

Because it has nothing to do with guns. trotsky Nov 2014 #96

Thanking God for being alive after being shot... stone space Nov 2014 #97

Or thanking god for surviving a plane crash. Or a storm. Or an earthquake. Or a mudslide. trotsky Nov 2014 #98

Then you should use a case where somebody actually said that. stone space Nov 2014 #102

Like the FSU incident. trotsky Nov 2014 #104

What do you mean by "incident"? stone space Nov 2014 #105

Details here: trotsky Nov 2014 #108

The link you posted goes to a story about a school shooting. (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #110

well one edhopper Nov 2014 #23

I tend to assume Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #25

okay edhopper Nov 2014 #27

Fair enough, tone is difficult to figure online Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #30

that is very true edhopper Nov 2014 #43

I tire of this revisionist telling of history. cbayer Nov 2014 #32

You've made the accusation, cbayer. trotsky Nov 2014 #38

Thanks for the heavy lifting. edhopper Nov 2014 #44

Oh, it must be Monday. Time foe the weekly dusting of the bookmarks. rug Nov 2014 #53

were your ears burning? edhopper Nov 2014 #45

Are you saying that I frequently make accusation that people want to eradicate religion cbayer Nov 2014 #49

not frequently edhopper Nov 2014 #57

I don't recall ever having this conversation. Do you have a link? cbayer Nov 2014 #59

As I said, you have brought that into the conversation edhopper Nov 2014 #60

Again, I have no recollection of that. cbayer Nov 2014 #62

Luckily no one has to take your smear of me seriously. trotsky Nov 2014 #64

I'll repost the links edhopper Nov 2014 #65

You have completely moved the goalposts, edhopper, cbayer Nov 2014 #76

You say a lot of incorrect things, cbayer. trotsky Nov 2014 #81

First my post was tongue in cheek edhopper Nov 2014 #117

You asked me if my ears were burning, ed! How can you with cbayer Nov 2014 #118

When you chimed in edhopper Nov 2014 #119

I wasn't defending myself, I was challenging the false meme. cbayer Nov 2014 #120

So when I say I would like to see religion vanish edhopper Nov 2014 #124

Well, if religion only did bad things, I might agree with you. cbayer Nov 2014 #127

Your complete edhopper Nov 2014 #132

My complete disgust of !!!1111 DAWKINS!!!111 is no secret. cbayer Nov 2014 #135

Acknowledging that I saw your post here edhopper Nov 2014 #136

Niko is suggesting that churches should be banned from selling their bullshit. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #34

It's just one person, but... stone space Nov 2014 #39

No what was said downthread contradicts the assertion that the poster wanted religion banned. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #63

Then quote the post where this was taken back. stone space Nov 2014 #67

that doesn't ban religion unless you think a "church" is identical with "a religion". Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #80

There is religious bigotry posted here by folks... stone space Nov 2014 #69

There are religious bigots here, none of them as far as I know are atheists. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #82

Pointing out problems isn't bigotry phil89 Nov 2014 #70

"Churches shouldn't even be legal" stone space Nov 2014 #73

Perhaps you ought to take that up with Niko. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #114

I told him to go to hell. stone space Nov 2014 #116

How did that work out for you? Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #121

It worked fine. stone space Nov 2014 #123

Really? So your plan is to continue insulting people? Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #129

When religious bigots advocate outlawing churches, ... stone space Nov 2014 #130

I think prohibiting churches from any form of commercial activities would be a fine idea. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #131

Why do you feel that statement is wrong, and "bigoted"? Brettongarcia Nov 2014 #83

I'll let you justify any "implied claims". That's not my job. stone space Nov 2014 #86

How gracious of you procon Nov 2014 #4

No problem, and I apologize if any awkward or emotional phrasing on my part insulted you. TygrBright Nov 2014 #5

I am very close to your strawman. Promethean Nov 2014 #6

Thank you. I can see how this appeals as a strategy. TygrBright Nov 2014 #7

"I wonder if they're aware of the extent to which the ones who do go there influence theists' cbayer Nov 2014 #8

Sorry, "Poe's"? TygrBright Nov 2014 #9

Different Poe, though "Edgar" can occasionally be substituted to make a point. cbayer Nov 2014 #10

ahhh, thank you! Can't imagine how I missed that one. TygrBright Nov 2014 #11

IMO, they wish to discredit atheists by providing caricatures who behave as cbayer Nov 2014 #24

That's not very nice, Stone seems quite likeable. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #50

FTW! trotsky Nov 2014 #71

I've never heard the term "Poe". stone space Nov 2014 #37

That is very similar, as is "false flag". cbayer Nov 2014 #40

"There are Poe's among us". You just made that usage up. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #122

which ones are those Cbayer? Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #35

In my experience, agents provocateurs are difficult to distinguish... stone space Nov 2014 #41

You do project a lot. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #58

I see no reason to associate myself with those... stone space Nov 2014 #61

That's a pretty nasty accusation. trotsky Nov 2014 #42

It's a pretty mundane claim, actually. stone space Nov 2014 #48

Yet an irresponsible one. trotsky Nov 2014 #52

Agents Provocateurs don't marginalize? (nt) stone space Nov 2014 #54

Do sock puppets? n/t trotsky Nov 2014 #55

No. That's a different phenomina. stone space Nov 2014 #56

I think you have a good point Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #12

I really appreciate your participation here. cbayer Nov 2014 #26

lol, I finally got around to buying Star membership Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #28

Congratulations on your star, prophet! cbayer Nov 2014 #31

Thanks, man! Prophet 451 Nov 2014 #33

You just cannot provide any actual evidence. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #36

Congratulations! mr blur Nov 2014 #16

If you are so inclined to believe in a creator, PatrickforO Nov 2014 #46

If "the creator"can stop the suffering then it phil89 Nov 2014 #72

LOL PatrickforO Nov 2014 #93

This is a fairly representative example of why I feel religion is detremental to society. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2014 #128

I agree with you and am happy to see more religious groups cbayer Nov 2014 #95

Nice that you're actually admitting skepticscott Nov 2014 #111

I'll try and dial back my ignorant and or fearful attacks. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #47

LOL! Thanks, I think.... TygrBright Nov 2014 #101

I certainly go for principle/consistency first. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #103

Consistency is at least a helpful starting point. TygrBright Nov 2014 #115

You've not offended me at all. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #137

Let's take a step back for a second. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2014 #106

Ah-choo! Iggo Nov 2014 #107

Bless you. cbayer Nov 2014 #109

Why is it that folks who don't sneeze never get blessed? stone space Nov 2014 #112

Because, ss, you have not just expelled a demon! cbayer Nov 2014 #113

I've proved theorems about oracles. Does that count? stone space Nov 2014 #125

Bless you ! cbayer Nov 2014 #133

Thanks! stone space Nov 2014 #134