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bvf

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66. Yes, what a shame.

Wed Nov 26, 2014, 07:31 PM

Nov 2014

"You understand, homeless is the appropriate term for not having a permanent address, like some."

You understand "delusion" is the appropriate term for false belief.

This brouhaha would be funny if it didn't involve globe-trotting boat-owners with the brass to say in effect, "I know what you mean--some people consider me to be homeless as well," to someone who's actually experienced it.

That sort of response is reprehensible.

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Karen Armstrong: “...this is the sort of talk that led to the concentration camps." [View all] unrepentant progress Nov 2014 OP

Be aware - she is a persona non grata in some places right now. cbayer Nov 2014 #1

Thus my snarky line after the excerpt. :D unrepentant progress Nov 2014 #11

People tend to have that reaction toward extremists like Armstrong. n/t trotsky Nov 2014 #20

I like the way she has a handle on what our history is. Leontius Nov 2014 #2

OK, I'll play Cartoonist Nov 2014 #3

Denying religious violence lets it continue without opposition. longship Nov 2014 #4

Did you read any of the interview? Leontius Nov 2014 #5

I could be wrong, but my take is that she knows well that there is religious violence. cbayer Nov 2014 #7

Yup. I got that. longship Nov 2014 #8

What the? Cartoonist Nov 2014 #9

You have a point, and it applies in some places. longship Nov 2014 #10

So what's to be done? Cartoonist Nov 2014 #12

Uh oh, the sailor has a quote: cbayer Nov 2014 #26

Compare the two Cartoonist Nov 2014 #27

BS, you can't walk this back now. Tell me more about that Christian Army that is murdering cbayer Nov 2014 #28

He wishes he was Cartoonist Nov 2014 #29

The irony of your accusation is unspeakably hilarious. cbayer Nov 2014 #30

What do you want to know? They certainly haven't gone away. Cartoonist Nov 2014 #31

Are they an actual group or just a conception of yours? cbayer Nov 2014 #32

I'm the one who sees religion as bad Cartoonist Nov 2014 #33

No the good that you SEE is so minimal as to be practically invisible. cbayer Nov 2014 #34

Why is there no discussion allowed of your privileged status? trotsky Nov 2014 #37

Sod off! Cartoonist Nov 2014 #38

Sorry that you have been on hard times. A lot of people consider cbayer Nov 2014 #39

"I've been very fortunate to never need the services provided by these organizations" Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #40

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #41

It's jaw-dropping, honestly. trotsky Nov 2014 #42

You're offensive. Homeless. When have you last slept under a bridge? Heddi Nov 2014 #48

"I hope to be back next year and make this one of my homes." trotsky Nov 2014 #49

I can help you, Heddi. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #51

No, SKP. trotsky Nov 2014 #53

Your posts to Heddi are now officially creepy. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #56

You know, the invitation is open to all who suffer. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #59

physician, heal thyself! Lordquinton Nov 2014 #73

Seriously Rob H. Nov 2014 #75

Who's offensive? NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #67

"those of us that live on boats basically homeless, but we do generally have shelter" Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #50

You understand, homeless is the appropriate term for not having a permanent address, like some. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #52

But that is NOT the type of homelessness that was being referred to. trotsky Nov 2014 #54

so a person living in a luxury hotel is "homeless" and can empathise with a person Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #55

You're fucking kidding, right? Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #58

Yes, what a shame. bvf Nov 2014 #66

Let's get the historical chronology straight. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #61

Fascinating stuff. This is not an area in which I have much knowledge. cbayer Nov 2014 #62

Yes. It is the symoblism that is important, and the lessons to be learned. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #68

I am grateful for having been raised in the church. cbayer Nov 2014 #69

I'm with you. So what if much of it is myth. It is the mythology of our culture. It is JDPriestly Nov 2014 #70

Religion, good and bad, is indeed the story of the culture. cbayer Nov 2014 #71

You too. Have a great Thanksgiving.l JDPriestly Nov 2014 #72

But some posters do blame wars and other evils okasha Nov 2014 #47

Well Karen is either not being forthright or she talked to the wrong Imams. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #6

Cherry pickers gonna cherry pick. Iggo Nov 2014 #74

Author of the paragraph says this like the US isn't a dominant christian society. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #13

One nation under God Fumesucker Nov 2014 #14

It Is A Mystery AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #15

So the US is a Christan country. The foundation of the US is Christianity. Leontius Nov 2014 #43

It's people are, even today. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #45

The privilege is revolting... MellowDem Nov 2014 #16

C'mon Sam Harris is a Very Bad Person. We know that. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #17

The kind of statement that helped lead to the genocide is one like this: trotsky Nov 2014 #19

Surprise! the person who said that was an unapologetic liar who told countless other lies Leontius Nov 2014 #44

Do you have proof he wasn't a Christian? n/t trotsky Nov 2014 #46

Try this one: muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #63

You had to go back 400 years to find an Anti-semitic qoute from a German, really? Leontius Nov 2014 #64

You do remember that this is in the Religion Group, don't you? muriel_volestrangler Nov 2014 #65

Karen Armstrong is an extremist and it's sad (but not unexpected) to see she has a fan club on DU. trotsky Nov 2014 #18

Jerry Coyne's response: trotsky Nov 2014 #21

That about sums it up. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2014 #35

I've already been convicted and sentenced by the circle. trotsky Nov 2014 #36

Sam Harris, Karen Armstrong & Concentration Camps trotsky Nov 2014 #22

Author Wants You To Know That Criticizing Islam Could Lead To Concentration Camps trotsky Nov 2014 #23

...... Goblinmonger Nov 2014 #24

"I think she really believes this. Which is kind of sad." trotsky Nov 2014 #25

"Jesus Was Bullied, Too" NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #57

I agree that the targeting of innocent DUers is wrong. trotsky Nov 2014 #60

pssh, next the leftbaggers will be calling for the execution of a cartoon-writer MisterP Nov 2014 #76

Why am I not suprised the Militant Anti-Theists hate Armstrong? Odin2005 Dec 2014 #77

Yes, and we know that the self-styled "nice" atheists skepticscott Dec 2014 #78

Thanks for showing that you have never read her well-researched books. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #79

Actually, I have skepticscott Dec 2014 #80

Go visit a place dominated by "New Atheist" types like Reddit's /r/Atheism. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #81

I know that the rather smug and superior "nice" atheists skepticscott Dec 2014 #82

Nuanced views = Athiests calling out religious violence = Hitler? Really? Gore1FL Jan 2015 #84

I'm glad she went Full "Godwin" out of the starting gate Gore1FL Jan 2015 #83