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In reply to the discussion: What is the baddest, most evil thing Satan/Lucifer/the devil has ever done in the Bible? [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,700 posts)175. Since this doesn't seem to have been covered, Satan is in the apocryphal books too
In the Book of Wisdom, the devil is represented as the one who brought death into the world.[8] The Second Book of Enoch contains references to a Watcher angel called Satanael,[9] describing him as the prince of the Grigori who was cast out of heaven[10] and an evil spirit who knew the difference between what was "righteous" and "sinful".[11] A similar story is found in 1 Enoch; however, in that book, the leader of the Grigori is called Semjâzâ. In the apocryphal literature, Satan rules over a host of angels.[12] Mastema, who induced God to test Abraham through the sacrifice of Isaac, is identical with Satan in both name and nature.[13] The Book of Enoch contains references to Sathariel, thought also to be Sataniel and Satan'el. The similar spellings mirror that of his angelic brethren Michael, Raphael, Uriel and Gabriel, previous to his expulsion from Heaven.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil#Apocrypha.2FDeuterocanon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil#Apocrypha.2FDeuterocanon
In the second section (chapters 22-37) Enoch, now guided by Gabriel, is allowed to enter in the seventh heaven where he sees the Lord face to face. Afterwards he is anointed by Michael and becomes similar in appearance to the angels. God tests the obedience of his angels by having them bow down before Enoch. A group of angels refuse. This group is identified as the angels of Satanail. They are imprisoned, eventually the imprisoned angels bow before Enoch addressing him as a man of God. The story seem similar to the War in Heaven between God and Satan.[17] The Lord asks the angel Vereviel to dictate to Enoch 360 books containing all that is knowable. Later, the Lord himself tells to Enoch the secrets of the creation up to the flood, which are unknown even to the angels. Enoch is finally sent back on the earth for thirty days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Enoch
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_Enoch
Various aspects of Christianity have taken things from the grey area of the Apocrypha. That 'War in Heaven' reference is to Revelation 12; whether Revelation is intended as a description of what had already happened, of a prediction of what would happen in some future, or whether the author was in no fit state to tell the difference, is up to the reader. But that could be taken either as saying the Devil has already been cast out of heaven for rebelling; or that the Devil is still in heaven, and won't get cast out until the Apocalypse.
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What is the baddest, most evil thing Satan/Lucifer/the devil has ever done in the Bible? [View all]
DetlefK
Dec 2014
OP
If I were claiming to be equal to God and I wasn't sure if the man in the desert was God,
rug
Dec 2014
#181
May I point out that Lucifer never threatened to strike anybody with a bolt of lightening
BlueStreak
Dec 2014
#202
I don't think Yahweh impregnated Mary against her will, but without her consent
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#10
As there is only one deity allegedly, at least in the Abrahamic religions,
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#11
It's actually an interesting theological question. Which is precisely why you are here to deflect.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#18
it is amazing. I'm sure she will be admonished very soon now for her behavior.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#37
Every time someone new comes in here with a negative view of religion, she tries to badger them out
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#71
Also, don't let Cbayer bully you out of here. You asked a good question.
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#51
"Gallup found that "belief in the devil has increased from 55% in 1990 to 70% in 2004."
2naSalit
Dec 2014
#83
Poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe poe
AtheistCrusader
Dec 2014
#119
"Don't imagine you can understand or make sense of what it happening to you."
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#134
Yeah, that's the ticket. God is just like Nixon and the devil is just like Dawkins.
cbayer
Dec 2014
#22
What is it with you guys and your taking pretty much everything I say and distorting it.
cbayer
Dec 2014
#73
Well, to be fair, that about sums up the entire Christian response to that question
cleanhippie
Dec 2014
#61
Saying "created flame bait" is guns blazing? Say, you're not the one who alerted on
cbayer
Dec 2014
#68
No, that's not something I would alert on because I know it wouldn't succeed.
Goblinmonger
Dec 2014
#70
Another gross distortion. I didn't call you a liar at all, I just noted that the wording was
cbayer
Dec 2014
#103
Yeah, the satan stories have some of that theme - he's hurt, overlooked, scorned and reacts.
pinto
Dec 2014
#120
So, peers answered your former students questions during class discussions, and your role was?
notadmblnd
Dec 2014
#157
The Narrow Way/Path, the Tao is the Healing Path. Always do which is conducive to healing.
Dont call me Shirley
Dec 2014
#174
Speaking from personal experience, the healing path (whatever it is called), the path of kindness,
Dont call me Shirley
Dec 2014
#177
I think this is a great question for this group, and I'm sorry someone tried (is trying) so hard to
Heddi
Dec 2014
#118
This was a great discussion until Cbayer decided, unilaterally, that it was flamebait
Heddi
Dec 2014
#142
Since this doesn't seem to have been covered, Satan is in the apocryphal books too
muriel_volestrangler
Dec 2014
#175
Fine, still we have a mountain of outright evil attributed to Yahweh and
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#191