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cbayer

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5. Evolution depends on a random mutation allowing a species to adapt to a change in the environment.

Fri Dec 19, 2014, 01:58 PM

Dec 2014

What do you imagine the loss of religious belief would help humans adapt to?

Religion both destroys and creates. It provides some things to the most marginalized people in the world that no one does.

Unless there is a compelling reason for it to go away, I doubt it will.

But it will change, that is for sure.

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Will religion ever disappear? [View all] cbayer Dec 2014 OP

Link? Looks like an interesting article. Jim__ Dec 2014 #1

Added, sorry about that. cbayer Dec 2014 #3

Thanks. Jim__ Dec 2014 #147

Looks like it's Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #4

Thanks. Jim__ Dec 2014 #148

Human evolution is a slow process. tradewinds Dec 2014 #2

Evolution depends on a random mutation allowing a species to adapt to a change in the environment. cbayer Dec 2014 #5

Human evolution can also refer to advancements in understanding. tradewinds Dec 2014 #7

Actually evolution really doesn't have to do with advancements in understanding. cbayer Dec 2014 #8

"if reason prevails, then those who wish for the disappearance of religion will become enlightened" tradewinds Dec 2014 #10

What a crock of crap? Living a life of delusion? cbayer Dec 2014 #12

... tradewinds Dec 2014 #17

Does your reason lead to you draw conclusions about people's ability to think cbayer Dec 2014 #21

Yup. It does. tradewinds Dec 2014 #22

Well, best of luck with that. cbayer Dec 2014 #23

I'm better than 90%. tradewinds Dec 2014 #24

See, around these parts we really like data. cbayer Dec 2014 #26

Seems I'm at 93% , now. tradewinds Dec 2014 #27

93% of something, that's for sure. cbayer Dec 2014 #28

With out the snark,......its just blather. tradewinds Dec 2014 #30

Not again... procon Dec 2014 #162

a favorite phrase Cbayer likes to use is Heddi Dec 2014 #163

... notadmblnd Dec 2014 #195

Hi Tradewinds! Welcome to the Religion Forum Where ALL Opinions and Beliefs Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #151

You've been here for 24 hours and you're already insulting people? arcane1 Dec 2014 #13

I have removed the insulting smilie. tradewinds Dec 2014 #15

I'm not sure you will be here long enough to find out. cbayer Dec 2014 #18

0-7 leave msanthrope Dec 2014 #37

That's two 0-7's in as many days, lol. cbayer Dec 2014 #39

Someone can't alert for 24 hours now. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #40

The alerting brigade is feeling their oats. rug Dec 2014 #46

They may need to put a call out for mercenaries. cbayer Dec 2014 #48

Looks like there's a couple of fresh recruits already. rug Dec 2014 #56

. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #57

We're expected to be civil to one another. arcane1 Dec 2014 #19

Everyone, or just new people? tradewinds Dec 2014 #20

Everyone, of course. arcane1 Dec 2014 #25

There are no insulting smilies. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #153

Crop of crap? longship Dec 2014 #179

As usual, you make a coherent and civil argument. cbayer Dec 2014 #191

So from this exchange it seems you do have some faith based beliefs. TM99 Dec 2014 #92

Religion, and social mores evolve as well. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #33

Peace notadmblnd Dec 2014 #87

How would it do that? cbayer Dec 2014 #90

Be honest. You don't really want to know what I think notadmblnd Dec 2014 #105

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #108

Some can't see past the end of their "church lady" noses. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #113

Church lady? Is that what the kids are calling me these days? cbayer Dec 2014 #117

Wow! Was that a threat? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #126

Wow tradewinds Dec 2014 #129

A threat? You've been reading to many fantasy stories. cbayer Dec 2014 #131

You warned me to be careful. what do I need to be careful of? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #137

I was giving you advice about this new member who appears to have it in for me personally, cbayer Dec 2014 #144

So you have the inside scoop on this new member? Why should I not associate notadmblnd Dec 2014 #152

Suit yourself. I have no inside scoop, I've just been a part of this rodeo for a long time. cbayer Dec 2014 #156

Yes, "His battle" those are your words. You defined his comments as a battle notadmblnd Dec 2014 #196

Well, your interpretation is incorrect. cbayer Dec 2014 #197

I suspect you'ld tell me the sky is not blue nor is water wet, too. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #199

Ooooo! Googly eyes! cbayer Dec 2014 #200

See, I knew you would. However.... notadmblnd Dec 2014 #205

But is the sky always blue? cbayer Dec 2014 #224

during the day, yes. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #232

Of course you are and I have not told you you couldn't. cbayer Dec 2014 #233

Onward Christian Soldier notadmblnd Dec 2014 #236

I never really understood that song. cbayer Dec 2014 #239

The meanings is plain and simple; notadmblnd Dec 2014 #244

Yeah, I get that part, it just never made sense to me because cbayer Dec 2014 #246

Yet, you ridicule mine here. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #247

What exactly do you think I have ridiculed? cbayer Dec 2014 #248

your little arrow comment a few posts back is one example notadmblnd Dec 2014 #251

OH, please. You shot an arrow at me and it completely missed the mark. cbayer Dec 2014 #255

In my opinion, I am not wrong. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #258

Would that comment also apply to people who talk about the chips on other's shoulders? Fumesucker Dec 2014 #268

I don't recall speaking about you to another member and I try to avoid doing that. cbayer Dec 2014 #271

Just FTR, I just did a search to look into this. cbayer Dec 2014 #272

Yup, cliquish and controlling. Very "Church Lady" like. tradewinds Dec 2014 #119

3-4 Leave Bryce Butler Dec 2014 #193

.... notadmblnd Dec 2014 #194

No, I do want to know what you think. cbayer Dec 2014 #109

If you put down the comic books you'll find history much more interesting and complex. Leontius Dec 2014 #159

really? what part of my post came from a comic book? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #161

Sorry to break this to you, okasha Dec 2014 #184

Really? Is that all you had to nit pick out of that? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #192

I'll take a shot Leontius Dec 2014 #206

Leontius sums it up well. okasha Dec 2014 #207

I think that's boloney notadmblnd Dec 2014 #208

And I think that's salami. okasha Dec 2014 #209

there you go, making rude remarks and assuming notadmblnd Dec 2014 #211

And exactly what would be your FACT based alternate history of the events Leontius Dec 2014 #212

Boy, you guys love to move the bar don't you? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #215

No bar movement Leontius Dec 2014 #217

I won't deny it, I did turn to Hitler and WWII notadmblnd Dec 2014 #259

As you say that's just your opinion and one based on no facts and poor knowledge of history. Leontius Dec 2014 #262

There ya go! I swear, I should have played the lotto. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #263

No I'm not disparaging your intelligence Leontius Dec 2014 #264

Sure you did. You implied that my mind was weak notadmblnd Dec 2014 #265

Knowledge is not intelligence Leontius Dec 2014 #266

As the OP, I ask you to provide the quote in which I denied that religion has anything to cbayer Dec 2014 #227

I meant disingenuous notadmblnd Dec 2014 #230

Oh, c'mon. It was a little humor. So where is the quote, notabmbind? cbayer Dec 2014 #231

You are so clever. Rudness, snark and now ridicule. Have those traits been adopted by those who notadmblnd Dec 2014 #235

First off, I don't call myself a christian and I don't go to church so your arrow landed in the mud. cbayer Dec 2014 #238

Then why so hostile towards those who disagree with the Christian religions? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #241

No one here has been hostile towards you at all. cbayer Dec 2014 #245

you certainly have. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #250

Again, your bar is very low. cbayer Dec 2014 #252

that's your opinion, but then I guess making personal disparages is all you got left notadmblnd Dec 2014 #254

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to cut you loose for now. cbayer Dec 2014 #257

Would Merriam Webster's definition work better for you? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #256

I have'nt bashed religion. I expressed that perhaps without religion there could be peace notadmblnd Dec 2014 #253

I've read her post 3 times and I can't see anything rude at all. cbayer Dec 2014 #226

Of course not you don't see anything rude. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #234

First off, she's not a christian. cbayer Dec 2014 #237

You most surely did claim the Nazis committed their atrocities in the name of religion. cbayer Dec 2014 #225

I think war is caused by the economic royalists and always has. Religion is a tool, it can be used Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #176

More baseless hope. rug Dec 2014 #49

I tend to doubt that. safeinOhio Dec 2014 #6

I tend to agree with you. cbayer Dec 2014 #9

A lot of people that once believed, no longer. safeinOhio Dec 2014 #14

I agree. I don't think it's a simple gene, but one that has influence. cbayer Dec 2014 #16

Much like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #91

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps the belief in those things also has a genetic determinant... cbayer Dec 2014 #95

What I was trying to say, is that when we grow, mature, or when an individual such as our parents notadmblnd Dec 2014 #107

And while you are correct about beliefs in some things disappearing, cbayer Dec 2014 #112

Oh yeah, the God Particle notadmblnd Dec 2014 #118

I have no idea what you are talking about and I am guessing the RD comment is just snark. cbayer Dec 2014 #123

True, lots of human traits you'd think we might get over are still around and going strong. trotsky Dec 2014 #11

So many of the "traits" you list are often fanned by religion. tradewinds Dec 2014 #29

So are persistent antagonism and passive-aggresion. rug Dec 2014 #52

relligion is learned behavior, not inherent. as long as there are gullible people the msongs Dec 2014 #31

You have anything to substantiate that? cbayer Dec 2014 #32

I'll answer that. tradewinds Dec 2014 #34

You are again throwing things around as fact based on anecdote and not data. cbayer Dec 2014 #36

when someone defending the reality of religion whines about lack of "data" , I can only laugh. tradewinds Dec 2014 #38

Religion is real. I suspect what you meant to say was that it would be funny if someone cbayer Dec 2014 #43

Your "study" calls it "religiosity". It could also be refereed to as "gullibility" tradewinds Dec 2014 #50

If you think they were studying gullibility, then you clearly did not read the study. cbayer Dec 2014 #59

Like I said, gullibility. Just because you call it something else, it does not change the fact. tradewinds Dec 2014 #63

Faith is a real phenomena ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #66

Lack of intelligence is also a real phenomena, as is sociopathy and schizophrenia, what's your point? tradewinds Dec 2014 #70

I made my point. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #75

Sorry , your point relied on faith. tradewinds Dec 2014 #80

Sure it was ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #86

Hey good to see you here! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #72

You too ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Dec 2014 #79

We know ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #85

When you learn more, I'll expect another course correction. rug Dec 2014 #61

Please be more coherent when you post to me. tradewinds Dec 2014 #65

If you like, I'll put it in smileys. rug Dec 2014 #71

Anything is better than your usual word salad. tradewinds Dec 2014 #73

Usual? are you familiar with his work? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #74

A very good question. rug Dec 2014 #77

Word salad is the new standard from the group mind. Leontius Dec 2014 #214

Sure tradewinds Dec 2014 #78

How nice for you. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #81

Not familiar with the Uzual Suspects? tradewinds Dec 2014 #82

Did i hit the Mark? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #83

Who is Mark? tradewinds Dec 2014 #94

No one of importance. So how did you find us? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #97

How did I find you? tradewinds Dec 2014 #99

Just curious. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #100

Skinner has said that socks are OK Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #110

When did Ohio show up? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #111

I don't remember. It was a very short stay. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #114

Mexican catholic? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #115

Because, IIRC, it was exactly what we were talking about. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #121

I am not mirt. was ohio banned and how many posts did the poster make? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #122

So this is just a Jets v Sharks thing? How quaint. tradewinds Dec 2014 #125

Yeah. Pretty much Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #136

Yeah, that's because MIRT has a strong anti-atheist prejudice. cbayer Dec 2014 #127

Not saying that at all. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #135

The ohio thing your talking about, i think I caught it when it was over. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #141

I didn't make a sock comment at all. cbayer Dec 2014 #154

Not about him. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #155

Rolly eyes = I think you are just lying through your teeth. cbayer Dec 2014 #157

Please tell me you are not accusing me of having created a sock. cbayer Dec 2014 #120

Nope. Not at all. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #124

Gee, I don't know why I might think that. cbayer Dec 2014 #140

Oh, I see it now. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #145

OMG!! I posted an apology to the OP because I had changed my POV on what he was doing. cbayer Dec 2014 #158

Please , clue me in. tradewinds Dec 2014 #116

Yeah. Sorry you are in the middle of this. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #130

I just dived into Latest Threads. tradewinds Dec 2014 #133

That makes sense to me. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #138

You are one of the primary gatekeepers in this group. cbayer Dec 2014 #146

It was a idiom ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #98

"Mark" was capitalized, hence the confusion. tradewinds Dec 2014 #101

I see. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #103

38 posts in 23 hours. Are you in a hurry to get to 100? rug Dec 2014 #88

Says the guy with a 32 post per day average. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #102

What's with these folks? tradewinds Dec 2014 #106

No, actually. This place is particularly rabid at times. Come to the Atheist forum Heddi Dec 2014 #132

Thanks. tradewinds Dec 2014 #134

Results... Major Nikon Dec 2014 #143

100 is the relevant number. rug Dec 2014 #128

Why? tradewinds Dec 2014 #139

Just ignore him. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #149

The malicious intruder removal team (MIRT) Rob H. Dec 2014 #150

Predisposition to belief is a measurable, inherent thing for a large percentage of the population. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #35

Truth, it cannot be denied but after reading this thread its apparrent it can be ignored AuntPatsy Dec 2014 #64

Religion is both genetic and learned. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #178

Hmm, I don't think that "genetic" thing holds water in terms of church attendance. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #186

Not in terms of church attendance but in being more driven to be drawn into that world. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #189

Are you withdrawing your DNA claim? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #210

No, I am not withdrawing the DNA claim. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #213

So your evidence for the genetic transfer of religion is? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #220

Experience. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #221

while tansgenerational epigenetics exists, it is not "recorded in their DNA". Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #198

The word recorded was a simple term I used to explain epigenetic marks Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #216

DNA has nothing to do with epigenetics, you had no clue until I mentioned it. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #219

Right on both accounts. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #222

Hopefully religion never disappears. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #41

Why? AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #42

It is a comfort for billions. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #45

One might presume AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #47

what will be will be. Things will change. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #51

I suspect 'understanding' and the shrinking unknown will produce it. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #55

Maybe "Religion" is a stage of cognitive development? Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #104

Entirely possible. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #142

You say "comfort" I say destructive crutch. tradewinds Dec 2014 #53

Ok, i disagree. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #54

Or at least, you BELIEVE you do. tradewinds Dec 2014 #58

whatever. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #60

When you finish rolling around the floor, look up non sequitur. rug Dec 2014 #62

Sorry Jr. But my logic tracks just fine tradewinds Dec 2014 #67

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #68

Not really funny. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #69

But rug's post was spot on. Leontius Dec 2014 #160

6-1 the Jury disagrees. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #164

I am so sorry to see he got that hide. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #165

Why? He broke the rules Heddi Dec 2014 #166

Because I am sorry he got it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #167

Oh, that Interfaith Hosting bullshit ship sailed long ago, Justin Heddi Dec 2014 #168

You know you spend a lot of time worrying about our group. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #169

This is an act, isn't it? Heddi Dec 2014 #171

I don't answer to you. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #172

Well you kind of *did* answer to me Heddi Dec 2014 #173

Good night! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #174

GOOD DAY SIR!!!11!! Heddi Dec 2014 #175

Some of the jury should probably take the same advice. Leontius Dec 2014 #182

Well they use their best judgement but they don't get it right always. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #183

It has always and will continue to change. cbayer Dec 2014 #44

Religions don't always get better with time. Mariana Dec 2014 #185

Agree. That is why I think it's important that people be able to distinguish cbayer Dec 2014 #190

Religion will not disappear nichomachus Dec 2014 #84

It will also not disappear as long as it provides the essential cbayer Dec 2014 #89

"fabricated historical narrative" -- and you just described religion n/t nichomachus Dec 2014 #93

I think I agree with you to a large extent on that. cbayer Dec 2014 #96

This thread turned into a pile of crap digonswine Dec 2014 #170

I think?..that belief in Religion is partly determined by your genes/brain makeup. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #177

It would be interesting to see how a population of children Mariana Dec 2014 #187

Religion will lose influence in areas of the world that are economically and politically... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #180

There's another factor at work, even in "advanced" places. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #201

What you say is true, but even those fears may be rendered irrelevant due to technology... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #218

Religon has existed for at least 70,000 years. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #181

"What difference does it make if some humans are religious?" Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #203

It does affect a lot of things. cbayer Dec 2014 #204

You paint all religous people with a single brush, and contend they do not have a right to exist. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #223

I never said they didn't have a right to exist! Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #240

What about the profound positive effects? cbayer Dec 2014 #242

The three Abrahamic religions were primarily created as a means of societal control. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #243

That is your belief, but it's not a fact. cbayer Dec 2014 #249

All religions, not just those you mentioned, have been used by states for various purposes. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #260

You answered my question "Wat difference does it make if some humans are religous? " Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #261

Championing the disappearance of religion is a lot different than championing the disappearance of Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #267

Why should they be required to change their beliefs? That is tyrany. Work to remove the influence of Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #273

I doubt it will disappear entirely Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #188

as soon as sci/fi does easychoice Dec 2014 #202

Atheists are certainly more noticeable Feral Child Dec 2014 #228

Not for me.. Peacetrain Dec 2014 #229

No, I have to disagree with that Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #269

No. EvilAL Dec 2014 #270