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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Sat Dec 20, 2014, 11:56 AM Dec 2014

I don’t want my wife to indoctrinate our two-year-old into religion [View all]



It’s fine if my wife discusses religion when our daughter is old enough, but I’m against her smuggling it into the child’s life when she can have no understanding of its significance


My wife and I have just had a row about introducing our two-year-old to religion. I am an atheist, while my wife is a Christian, tending towards the evangelical. Religion has not been a source of tension until now. She would like me to believe, but has made no great effort to convert me.

I was content with the idea that, at some stage when our child was older, school-age at least, my wife would start discussing Christianity with her and encourage her to share her beliefs. At the same time, I planned to let her know about my atheism and tell her that other religions exist. I didn’t imagine it would descend into a tug of war. If my child decides to believe, when she is old enough to make an informed choice, that will be her choice to make and I would respect it.

But tonight my wife opened a package of books she had bought, all aimed at introducing Christianity to toddlers. I protested that we hadn’t even discussed broaching this subject with our child, and said I didn’t want her to be indoctrinated at an age when she is barely able to form sentences. I begged for patience, and said there could be no objection to my wife discussing this with her when she is old enough to deal with such a complex subject, but that it was grossly unfair to start smuggling it into her life when she can have no understanding of its significance.

My wife’s position is that to delay the discussion is, in effect, to indoctrinate our child into atheism. She seems minded to press ahead, despite my vehement disagreement. Is there any general view on the age at which a child can fairly be introduced to religion?

Not really. And the age at which you introduce a child to a religion is no indication of how strongly, or if, or for how long, they will believe in anything. I know religious people who introduce their children to religion because “not believing” is more widespread so they feel they need to get in early to preserve their beliefs. I do not think this approach works in the long term.

http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/19/dont-want-wife-indoctrinate-two-year-old-into-religion
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Wait until she becomes his ex-wife. rug Dec 2014 #1
Sounds irreconcilable. Agschmid Dec 2014 #2
I can't figure out which of them is more justified in fleeing. rug Dec 2014 #3
ikr! Whouda thunkit...maybe people shud work these things out BEFORE they commit to marriage and kids... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2014 #51
The response was skillfully written, in terms of understatement goldent Dec 2014 #17
The British are masters of understatement. rug Dec 2014 #20
There was actually better edhopper Dec 2014 #49
I wonder if they realized how far-reaching this discovery was. rug Dec 2014 #54
They absolutely knew they had discovered something huge edhopper Dec 2014 #55
I have a few friends edhopper Dec 2014 #4
"I think a lot of this has more to do with tradition and community than anything else." cleanhippie Dec 2014 #5
It could be they want them to catch literary references in classic books, and they want them to do MADem Dec 2014 #41
He's an atheist, she's a Christian, and this didn't come up 'til they had a child? Jim__ Dec 2014 #6
They definitely should improve their communication skills. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #7
They should go to a counselor. Jim__ Dec 2014 #9
That is quite common. nt. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #11
Introduce the kid to world religions. JoePhilly Dec 2014 #8
This^^^ PumpkinAle Dec 2014 #14
My wife and I struggled with the issue of religious rituals. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #10
I always laugh when I hear that not indoctrinating a child into religion is indoctrinating them cleanhippie Dec 2014 #15
Yep. bvf Dec 2014 #23
Indeed.. the thought that atheism is the default position continues to baffle... truebrit71 Dec 2014 #42
It sounds like a tough situation, but the husband can talk to the kid as well Bjorn Against Dec 2014 #12
It's going to be very hard to do Mariana Dec 2014 #24
Well, I guess he needs to just keep telling the kid Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #13
But Mommy might be inclined bvf Dec 2014 #21
It's authoritarianism where things go wrong, rarely religion itself. hunter Dec 2014 #16
The child in question is two years old. Mariana Dec 2014 #25
Our kids are 20+ years now, raised 100% Catholic. hunter Dec 2014 #43
I didn't indoctrinate my son with religion, but I didn't shield him from 1monster Dec 2014 #18
My wife and I pretty much raised our daughter (now 27) bvf Dec 2014 #22
I'm amazed their marriage lasted this long Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #19
I don't often find myself in agreement with your posts, but bvf Dec 2014 #28
Sure as hell should have resolved this BEFORE elleng Dec 2014 #26
Before getting Married HockeyMom Dec 2014 #27
Kids love to see their parents fight Sweeney Dec 2014 #31
Most of the time, the early religious indoctrination works. Mariana Dec 2014 #33
People teach what they believe to be true Sweeney Dec 2014 #36
She should submit to her husband and allow his descion to rule the family Leontius Dec 2014 #29
It depends on her particular flavor of Christianity, I suppose. Mariana Dec 2014 #32
I hope you are joking Sweeney Dec 2014 #35
Do you really not see it? n/t. bvf Dec 2014 #37
See what? Another excuse for conflict? Sweeney Dec 2014 #39
The question was in response to bvf Dec 2014 #44
I some times miss the obvious Sweeney Dec 2014 #45
It's been known for millennia that virgin human females do not give birth Fumesucker Dec 2014 #48
Sorry; but you got your Bible wrong. Sweeney Dec 2014 #50
The Bible is what people think it is Fumesucker Dec 2014 #52
Well Yes... Sweeney Dec 2014 #56
Here is your problem- Sweeney Dec 2014 #30
I am 61, and highly intelligent, nearly a genius. Sweeney Dec 2014 #34
I fear this poor 2 year old would be deluged with all kinds of books about religions muriel_volestrangler Dec 2014 #38
As much as one may love a child Sweeney Dec 2014 #40
In a love relationship Sweeney Dec 2014 #46
I think of marriage as a partnership, where both sides must work together. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #47
I went through that twice with baptisms. EvilAL Dec 2014 #53
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