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Dont call me Shirley

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222. Right on both accounts.

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Sun Dec 21, 2014, 10:12 AM

Dec 2014

Your intelligence is over my head. But i am always willing to learn.

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Will religion ever disappear? [View all] cbayer Dec 2014 OP

Link? Looks like an interesting article. Jim__ Dec 2014 #1

Added, sorry about that. cbayer Dec 2014 #3

Thanks. Jim__ Dec 2014 #147

Looks like it's Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #4

Thanks. Jim__ Dec 2014 #148

Human evolution is a slow process. tradewinds Dec 2014 #2

Evolution depends on a random mutation allowing a species to adapt to a change in the environment. cbayer Dec 2014 #5

Human evolution can also refer to advancements in understanding. tradewinds Dec 2014 #7

Actually evolution really doesn't have to do with advancements in understanding. cbayer Dec 2014 #8

"if reason prevails, then those who wish for the disappearance of religion will become enlightened" tradewinds Dec 2014 #10

What a crock of crap? Living a life of delusion? cbayer Dec 2014 #12

... tradewinds Dec 2014 #17

Does your reason lead to you draw conclusions about people's ability to think cbayer Dec 2014 #21

Yup. It does. tradewinds Dec 2014 #22

Well, best of luck with that. cbayer Dec 2014 #23

I'm better than 90%. tradewinds Dec 2014 #24

See, around these parts we really like data. cbayer Dec 2014 #26

Seems I'm at 93% , now. tradewinds Dec 2014 #27

93% of something, that's for sure. cbayer Dec 2014 #28

With out the snark,......its just blather. tradewinds Dec 2014 #30

Not again... procon Dec 2014 #162

a favorite phrase Cbayer likes to use is Heddi Dec 2014 #163

... notadmblnd Dec 2014 #195

Hi Tradewinds! Welcome to the Religion Forum Where ALL Opinions and Beliefs Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #151

You've been here for 24 hours and you're already insulting people? arcane1 Dec 2014 #13

I have removed the insulting smilie. tradewinds Dec 2014 #15

I'm not sure you will be here long enough to find out. cbayer Dec 2014 #18

0-7 leave msanthrope Dec 2014 #37

That's two 0-7's in as many days, lol. cbayer Dec 2014 #39

Someone can't alert for 24 hours now. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #40

The alerting brigade is feeling their oats. rug Dec 2014 #46

They may need to put a call out for mercenaries. cbayer Dec 2014 #48

Looks like there's a couple of fresh recruits already. rug Dec 2014 #56

. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #57

We're expected to be civil to one another. arcane1 Dec 2014 #19

Everyone, or just new people? tradewinds Dec 2014 #20

Everyone, of course. arcane1 Dec 2014 #25

There are no insulting smilies. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #153

Crop of crap? longship Dec 2014 #179

As usual, you make a coherent and civil argument. cbayer Dec 2014 #191

So from this exchange it seems you do have some faith based beliefs. TM99 Dec 2014 #92

Religion, and social mores evolve as well. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #33

Peace notadmblnd Dec 2014 #87

How would it do that? cbayer Dec 2014 #90

Be honest. You don't really want to know what I think notadmblnd Dec 2014 #105

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #108

Some can't see past the end of their "church lady" noses. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #113

Church lady? Is that what the kids are calling me these days? cbayer Dec 2014 #117

Wow! Was that a threat? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #126

Wow tradewinds Dec 2014 #129

A threat? You've been reading to many fantasy stories. cbayer Dec 2014 #131

You warned me to be careful. what do I need to be careful of? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #137

I was giving you advice about this new member who appears to have it in for me personally, cbayer Dec 2014 #144

So you have the inside scoop on this new member? Why should I not associate notadmblnd Dec 2014 #152

Suit yourself. I have no inside scoop, I've just been a part of this rodeo for a long time. cbayer Dec 2014 #156

Yes, "His battle" those are your words. You defined his comments as a battle notadmblnd Dec 2014 #196

Well, your interpretation is incorrect. cbayer Dec 2014 #197

I suspect you'ld tell me the sky is not blue nor is water wet, too. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #199

Ooooo! Googly eyes! cbayer Dec 2014 #200

See, I knew you would. However.... notadmblnd Dec 2014 #205

But is the sky always blue? cbayer Dec 2014 #224

during the day, yes. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #232

Of course you are and I have not told you you couldn't. cbayer Dec 2014 #233

Onward Christian Soldier notadmblnd Dec 2014 #236

I never really understood that song. cbayer Dec 2014 #239

The meanings is plain and simple; notadmblnd Dec 2014 #244

Yeah, I get that part, it just never made sense to me because cbayer Dec 2014 #246

Yet, you ridicule mine here. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #247

What exactly do you think I have ridiculed? cbayer Dec 2014 #248

your little arrow comment a few posts back is one example notadmblnd Dec 2014 #251

OH, please. You shot an arrow at me and it completely missed the mark. cbayer Dec 2014 #255

In my opinion, I am not wrong. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #258

Would that comment also apply to people who talk about the chips on other's shoulders? Fumesucker Dec 2014 #268

I don't recall speaking about you to another member and I try to avoid doing that. cbayer Dec 2014 #271

Just FTR, I just did a search to look into this. cbayer Dec 2014 #272

Yup, cliquish and controlling. Very "Church Lady" like. tradewinds Dec 2014 #119

3-4 Leave Bryce Butler Dec 2014 #193

.... notadmblnd Dec 2014 #194

No, I do want to know what you think. cbayer Dec 2014 #109

If you put down the comic books you'll find history much more interesting and complex. Leontius Dec 2014 #159

really? what part of my post came from a comic book? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #161

Sorry to break this to you, okasha Dec 2014 #184

Really? Is that all you had to nit pick out of that? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #192

I'll take a shot Leontius Dec 2014 #206

Leontius sums it up well. okasha Dec 2014 #207

I think that's boloney notadmblnd Dec 2014 #208

And I think that's salami. okasha Dec 2014 #209

there you go, making rude remarks and assuming notadmblnd Dec 2014 #211

And exactly what would be your FACT based alternate history of the events Leontius Dec 2014 #212

Boy, you guys love to move the bar don't you? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #215

No bar movement Leontius Dec 2014 #217

I won't deny it, I did turn to Hitler and WWII notadmblnd Dec 2014 #259

As you say that's just your opinion and one based on no facts and poor knowledge of history. Leontius Dec 2014 #262

There ya go! I swear, I should have played the lotto. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #263

No I'm not disparaging your intelligence Leontius Dec 2014 #264

Sure you did. You implied that my mind was weak notadmblnd Dec 2014 #265

Knowledge is not intelligence Leontius Dec 2014 #266

As the OP, I ask you to provide the quote in which I denied that religion has anything to cbayer Dec 2014 #227

I meant disingenuous notadmblnd Dec 2014 #230

Oh, c'mon. It was a little humor. So where is the quote, notabmbind? cbayer Dec 2014 #231

You are so clever. Rudness, snark and now ridicule. Have those traits been adopted by those who notadmblnd Dec 2014 #235

First off, I don't call myself a christian and I don't go to church so your arrow landed in the mud. cbayer Dec 2014 #238

Then why so hostile towards those who disagree with the Christian religions? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #241

No one here has been hostile towards you at all. cbayer Dec 2014 #245

you certainly have. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #250

Again, your bar is very low. cbayer Dec 2014 #252

that's your opinion, but then I guess making personal disparages is all you got left notadmblnd Dec 2014 #254

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to cut you loose for now. cbayer Dec 2014 #257

Would Merriam Webster's definition work better for you? notadmblnd Dec 2014 #256

I have'nt bashed religion. I expressed that perhaps without religion there could be peace notadmblnd Dec 2014 #253

I've read her post 3 times and I can't see anything rude at all. cbayer Dec 2014 #226

Of course not you don't see anything rude. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #234

First off, she's not a christian. cbayer Dec 2014 #237

You most surely did claim the Nazis committed their atrocities in the name of religion. cbayer Dec 2014 #225

I think war is caused by the economic royalists and always has. Religion is a tool, it can be used Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #176

More baseless hope. rug Dec 2014 #49

I tend to doubt that. safeinOhio Dec 2014 #6

I tend to agree with you. cbayer Dec 2014 #9

A lot of people that once believed, no longer. safeinOhio Dec 2014 #14

I agree. I don't think it's a simple gene, but one that has influence. cbayer Dec 2014 #16

Much like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. notadmblnd Dec 2014 #91

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps the belief in those things also has a genetic determinant... cbayer Dec 2014 #95

What I was trying to say, is that when we grow, mature, or when an individual such as our parents notadmblnd Dec 2014 #107

And while you are correct about beliefs in some things disappearing, cbayer Dec 2014 #112

Oh yeah, the God Particle notadmblnd Dec 2014 #118

I have no idea what you are talking about and I am guessing the RD comment is just snark. cbayer Dec 2014 #123

True, lots of human traits you'd think we might get over are still around and going strong. trotsky Dec 2014 #11

So many of the "traits" you list are often fanned by religion. tradewinds Dec 2014 #29

So are persistent antagonism and passive-aggresion. rug Dec 2014 #52

relligion is learned behavior, not inherent. as long as there are gullible people the msongs Dec 2014 #31

You have anything to substantiate that? cbayer Dec 2014 #32

I'll answer that. tradewinds Dec 2014 #34

You are again throwing things around as fact based on anecdote and not data. cbayer Dec 2014 #36

when someone defending the reality of religion whines about lack of "data" , I can only laugh. tradewinds Dec 2014 #38

Religion is real. I suspect what you meant to say was that it would be funny if someone cbayer Dec 2014 #43

Your "study" calls it "religiosity". It could also be refereed to as "gullibility" tradewinds Dec 2014 #50

If you think they were studying gullibility, then you clearly did not read the study. cbayer Dec 2014 #59

Like I said, gullibility. Just because you call it something else, it does not change the fact. tradewinds Dec 2014 #63

Faith is a real phenomena ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #66

Lack of intelligence is also a real phenomena, as is sociopathy and schizophrenia, what's your point? tradewinds Dec 2014 #70

I made my point. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #75

Sorry , your point relied on faith. tradewinds Dec 2014 #80

Sure it was ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #86

Hey good to see you here! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #72

You too ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin Dec 2014 #79

We know ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #85

When you learn more, I'll expect another course correction. rug Dec 2014 #61

Please be more coherent when you post to me. tradewinds Dec 2014 #65

If you like, I'll put it in smileys. rug Dec 2014 #71

Anything is better than your usual word salad. tradewinds Dec 2014 #73

Usual? are you familiar with his work? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #74

A very good question. rug Dec 2014 #77

Word salad is the new standard from the group mind. Leontius Dec 2014 #214

Sure tradewinds Dec 2014 #78

How nice for you. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #81

Not familiar with the Uzual Suspects? tradewinds Dec 2014 #82

Did i hit the Mark? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #83

Who is Mark? tradewinds Dec 2014 #94

No one of importance. So how did you find us? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #97

How did I find you? tradewinds Dec 2014 #99

Just curious. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #100

Skinner has said that socks are OK Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #110

When did Ohio show up? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #111

I don't remember. It was a very short stay. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #114

Mexican catholic? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #115

Because, IIRC, it was exactly what we were talking about. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #121

I am not mirt. was ohio banned and how many posts did the poster make? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #122

So this is just a Jets v Sharks thing? How quaint. tradewinds Dec 2014 #125

Yeah. Pretty much Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #136

Yeah, that's because MIRT has a strong anti-atheist prejudice. cbayer Dec 2014 #127

Not saying that at all. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #135

The ohio thing your talking about, i think I caught it when it was over. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #141

I didn't make a sock comment at all. cbayer Dec 2014 #154

Not about him. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #155

Rolly eyes = I think you are just lying through your teeth. cbayer Dec 2014 #157

Please tell me you are not accusing me of having created a sock. cbayer Dec 2014 #120

Nope. Not at all. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #124

Gee, I don't know why I might think that. cbayer Dec 2014 #140

Oh, I see it now. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #145

OMG!! I posted an apology to the OP because I had changed my POV on what he was doing. cbayer Dec 2014 #158

Please , clue me in. tradewinds Dec 2014 #116

Yeah. Sorry you are in the middle of this. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #130

I just dived into Latest Threads. tradewinds Dec 2014 #133

That makes sense to me. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #138

You are one of the primary gatekeepers in this group. cbayer Dec 2014 #146

It was a idiom ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #98

"Mark" was capitalized, hence the confusion. tradewinds Dec 2014 #101

I see. ismnotwasm Dec 2014 #103

38 posts in 23 hours. Are you in a hurry to get to 100? rug Dec 2014 #88

Says the guy with a 32 post per day average. cleanhippie Dec 2014 #102

What's with these folks? tradewinds Dec 2014 #106

No, actually. This place is particularly rabid at times. Come to the Atheist forum Heddi Dec 2014 #132

Thanks. tradewinds Dec 2014 #134

Results... Major Nikon Dec 2014 #143

100 is the relevant number. rug Dec 2014 #128

Why? tradewinds Dec 2014 #139

Just ignore him. Goblinmonger Dec 2014 #149

The malicious intruder removal team (MIRT) Rob H. Dec 2014 #150

Predisposition to belief is a measurable, inherent thing for a large percentage of the population. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #35

Truth, it cannot be denied but after reading this thread its apparrent it can be ignored AuntPatsy Dec 2014 #64

Religion is both genetic and learned. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #178

Hmm, I don't think that "genetic" thing holds water in terms of church attendance. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #186

Not in terms of church attendance but in being more driven to be drawn into that world. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #189

Are you withdrawing your DNA claim? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #210

No, I am not withdrawing the DNA claim. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #213

So your evidence for the genetic transfer of religion is? Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #220

Experience. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #221

while tansgenerational epigenetics exists, it is not "recorded in their DNA". Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #198

The word recorded was a simple term I used to explain epigenetic marks Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #216

DNA has nothing to do with epigenetics, you had no clue until I mentioned it. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #219

Right on both accounts. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #222

Hopefully religion never disappears. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #41

Why? AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #42

It is a comfort for billions. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #45

One might presume AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #47

what will be will be. Things will change. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #51

I suspect 'understanding' and the shrinking unknown will produce it. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #55

Maybe "Religion" is a stage of cognitive development? Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #104

Entirely possible. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #142

You say "comfort" I say destructive crutch. tradewinds Dec 2014 #53

Ok, i disagree. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #54

Or at least, you BELIEVE you do. tradewinds Dec 2014 #58

whatever. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #60

When you finish rolling around the floor, look up non sequitur. rug Dec 2014 #62

Sorry Jr. But my logic tracks just fine tradewinds Dec 2014 #67

Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #68

Not really funny. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #69

But rug's post was spot on. Leontius Dec 2014 #160

6-1 the Jury disagrees. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #164

I am so sorry to see he got that hide. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #165

Why? He broke the rules Heddi Dec 2014 #166

Because I am sorry he got it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #167

Oh, that Interfaith Hosting bullshit ship sailed long ago, Justin Heddi Dec 2014 #168

You know you spend a lot of time worrying about our group. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #169

This is an act, isn't it? Heddi Dec 2014 #171

I don't answer to you. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #172

Well you kind of *did* answer to me Heddi Dec 2014 #173

Good night! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #174

GOOD DAY SIR!!!11!! Heddi Dec 2014 #175

Some of the jury should probably take the same advice. Leontius Dec 2014 #182

Well they use their best judgement but they don't get it right always. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #183

It has always and will continue to change. cbayer Dec 2014 #44

Religions don't always get better with time. Mariana Dec 2014 #185

Agree. That is why I think it's important that people be able to distinguish cbayer Dec 2014 #190

Religion will not disappear nichomachus Dec 2014 #84

It will also not disappear as long as it provides the essential cbayer Dec 2014 #89

"fabricated historical narrative" -- and you just described religion n/t nichomachus Dec 2014 #93

I think I agree with you to a large extent on that. cbayer Dec 2014 #96

This thread turned into a pile of crap digonswine Dec 2014 #170

I think?..that belief in Religion is partly determined by your genes/brain makeup. BlueJazz Dec 2014 #177

It would be interesting to see how a population of children Mariana Dec 2014 #187

Religion will lose influence in areas of the world that are economically and politically... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #180

There's another factor at work, even in "advanced" places. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #201

What you say is true, but even those fears may be rendered irrelevant due to technology... Humanist_Activist Dec 2014 #218

Religon has existed for at least 70,000 years. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #181

"What difference does it make if some humans are religious?" Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #203

It does affect a lot of things. cbayer Dec 2014 #204

You paint all religous people with a single brush, and contend they do not have a right to exist. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #223

I never said they didn't have a right to exist! Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #240

What about the profound positive effects? cbayer Dec 2014 #242

The three Abrahamic religions were primarily created as a means of societal control. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #243

That is your belief, but it's not a fact. cbayer Dec 2014 #249

All religions, not just those you mentioned, have been used by states for various purposes. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #260

You answered my question "Wat difference does it make if some humans are religous? " Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #261

Championing the disappearance of religion is a lot different than championing the disappearance of Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #267

Why should they be required to change their beliefs? That is tyrany. Work to remove the influence of Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #273

I doubt it will disappear entirely Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #188

as soon as sci/fi does easychoice Dec 2014 #202

Atheists are certainly more noticeable Feral Child Dec 2014 #228

Not for me.. Peacetrain Dec 2014 #229

No, I have to disagree with that Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #269

No. EvilAL Dec 2014 #270