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Sweeney

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33. You know
Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:09 AM
Dec 2014

Last edited Sat Dec 27, 2014, 02:37 PM - Edit history (3)

I have rebuilt transmissions, engines, carburetors, and can do almost anything on a house. I never think I am really smart until I meet some one really stupid. If I try to count all of the skills I have, I can never include people skills; Still, who has the magical power to know what is in another person's mind?.

Other than music, and perhaps dance, we only have language, and like that television doctor: House says. Everyone lies.

I don't lie because I don't count because I don't care. I have seen the most intelligent man I ever actually knew, an uncle by marriage, a PHD physicist and head of the Nat Sci department at MSU- go to church regularly. He was a good guy. I never asked him what he made of God with all of his intellectual ability. I made little of God with my little ability and maybe God made me little with Her ability.

I feel my intellectual abilities so long neglected out of necessity- that I give my mind all it can handle. My uncle had such a varied collection of spy novels that I wonder if the government wasn't paying him to read them. In my reading when I started reading physics, he pointed out some books I could read, and helped me if I had questions. Much of it was good, yet not necessarily up to date; and still in its way, relevant. Try to imagine how much scientists were doing over a hundred years ago when the rest of the world was in nearly a stone age. Do you think such people grasping the grandness of knowledge and the beauty of science could ever seriously doubt a God?

It is not the intelligent and well who doubt in a God even if they practice no organized religion. It is the hurt, the heartbroken, and the injured who doubt in God, because God has been cruel to them. I will tell you a secret, and any one who gives a shet. I once witnessed a miracle.

One night, my mother lite blessed candles and I joined her in prayer while my little brother slept, and my older brother for whom the miracle was prayed joined in. As we prayed the rosary, my mother stopped and rubbed blessed water on my brother's spindly legs, crippled with Polio. And she always asked for God to do his will and not hers and this was the perfect prayer, because God did just that.

And this prayer of acceptance, my brother heard too, and was granted resignation. But I was cured, and maybe my mother should have been more specific, and maybe I should have been more grateful; but I was cured, and I saw in my youth a ritual of faith and promise and sacrifice and prayer played out as it has been played out for well over a thousand years, and I realized what a miracle is faith when every card in the universe seems stacked against you.

Life at times can seem such futility. Life throws at us heartbreaks uncounted until they kill us. Little man monkeys that we are, we often stand up to it well and with a good heart. If you never ask God for nothing you will never be disappointed. If you get in a desperate situation, Pray. If prayer has no effect; Die. If you survive, testify; because that is what survivors always do. It does not mean they're prayers were more worthy or their faith more dear. It means they survived, and some day they won't, and then, I hope they can meet death with good cheer.

God, or for your benefit; If there is a God; she is no piss ant. Consider the vastness of the universe. As the universe has grown, so has God's distance from us. We used to be able to reach heaven with a bean stalk, or a ladder. Now you can't go there any more short of being free of the flesh. What's the rush. Because from the perspective of this sinner, those who deny their own flesh and their own life deny all life and all flesh. It makes such people miserable and righteous

I have this body not as a testimony to God when I am saved; but when I am cursed. When I can see the wonder of this life even through the haze of my own pain and misery, I am yet well. And I think this is true of intelligent people, that they can be grateful for life even if they do not know who to be grateful to. God is too big for the trivial shet of churches. I am a member of the one true faith and it seems so much nonsense. If a person in poverty asks me for help, I give what I can, not because of who he is but because of who I am.

If some one needs to believe, and they need the comfort and support of community why would I deny them that. It is one thing to deny to Christians the privilege of interference in politics; but who should deny them what they need. I would not deny a rummy rum. I would not deny a druggy drugs; but no one will ever get enough for a fatal dose from me.

If you need to escape this life, the pain, the strife, the loneliness of life who am I to deny. If religion is your strength, I want you strong. If reality is your strength ,I want you strong. We all pay for our lives with our lives. and this is true for rich or poor, those who live a hundred years or only seconds.

Religion does not work for you. Religion does not make sense to you. If it did not answer normal human needs it would be worth little to humanity. I don't buy into religion for a moment, and yet in that word: Firmament the result of power, you have it all. Only acknowledge how large is the cosmos and how small are we. Do not be like the religious and make God small to make yourself large.

Be what you are, and not as you feel you have been forced to be. Live life active, and not reactive. Do not live contra Christianity. Forget all religions and answer the question: Who made this, What made this; and understand that you will never know. Nothing is fore ordained but human ignorance, and for every wisp of knowledge we must be thankful. Will you thank the man that learned some new knowledge when he was thanking God?. What if we made God and God did not make us. Should the fact that we have no address to send a thank you card stop us from feeling grateful. What reason have you to feel otherwise?

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Religion’s smart-people problem: [View all] Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 OP
How interesting. John Messerly, advocate for transhumanism, received his doctorate from the Jesuits. rug Dec 2014 #1
I think you mean "strained." okasha Dec 2014 #2
. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #3
First, that isn't Warren's choice of words. Click the link. trotsky Dec 2014 #4
I thought he might have meant "tenuous". nt No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #7
Maybe the author was trying... 3catwoman3 Dec 2014 #26
Good one Sweeney Dec 2014 #32
I'm flattered that you seem to think I wrote this. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #8
Only the intro before the article. okasha Dec 2014 #10
Not a word. Perhaps you ought to contact the author. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #13
And spoil his amusememt value? okasha Dec 2014 #14
If you are going to nit pick grammar use a spell checker. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #15
Yes, I'd like an answer to the question. rug Dec 2014 #16
It's not a matter of grammar al all. okasha Dec 2014 #19
Do you actually have anything to say about the content of the OP? Seems not. mr blur Dec 2014 #22
You forgot to say "Bah, humbug!" okasha Dec 2014 #24
I like how this article thucythucy Dec 2014 #5
Gaudeamus igitur. Let us rejoice okasha Dec 2014 #6
That is not what the author said about sophisticated believers. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #9
No, I don't disagree. But so what? thucythucy Dec 2014 #17
King and Carter likely fit into his first category Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #18
You can break the cycle, Warren! okasha Dec 2014 #20
I've got a great idea: start an OP on transhumanism. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #23
Or you could respond to my question or to my post immediately following. okasha Dec 2014 #25
If you are afraid to start your own thread on the subject I'd be happy to start one for you. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #27
You're not a terribly artful dodger, are you? okasha Dec 2014 #28
Seriously? I'll take that as a "yes". Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #29
So, do you agree with it or do you think it's woo? rug Dec 2014 #30
Or maybe they've had some kind of religious or transcendental experience, thucythucy Dec 2014 #31
The other problem okasha Dec 2014 #21
Well-said. There's a common position which goes something like this: ... Beartracks Dec 2014 #58
Being smart doesn't mean you care for the truth... MellowDem Dec 2014 #11
And what, in your epistemology, is "the truth"? n/t LTX Dec 2014 #34
Being in accordance with reality... MellowDem Dec 2014 #46
I am sure you must want to rephrase that. Sweeney Dec 2014 #49
Depends on the definition of "smart" MellowDem Dec 2014 #59
You are correct in most of what you say. Sweeney Dec 2014 #65
Article is very good.... MellowDem Dec 2014 #12
You know Sweeney Dec 2014 #33
TL;DR Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #36
Read this post a couple of days ago and thought it was brilliant ucrdem Dec 2014 #57
Thank you. Sweeney Dec 2014 #64
Base logic WovenGems Dec 2014 #35
Post removed Post removed Dec 2014 #37
And now you are just a homophobic bigot. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #38
And the results are in. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #40
Why of course not, Warren. LTX Dec 2014 #41
The problem with religious people is Sweeney Dec 2014 #50
People DO because of what they believe. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #55
I agree with you A C. Sweeney Dec 2014 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author thucythucy Dec 2014 #42
The post was deleted before I had the chance to see it thucythucy Dec 2014 #43
Self delusion derived from an emotional need to believe in his religion. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #44
For someone who believes "we are just a flicker of light, a moment of time, and of no consequence", rug Dec 2014 #45
No doubt. Sweeney Dec 2014 #52
Wow! thucythucy Dec 2014 #47
I'm glad to be "pegged", I hope it was as good for you as it was for me. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #48
I'm not slamming you "for giving an opinion." thucythucy Dec 2014 #62
If you look at the course of religion through the middle ages Sweeney Dec 2014 #53
Our universe is society, and society has a morality. Sweeney Dec 2014 #51
"Our universe is society" - sure and by "fish" I of course mean "Goat". Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #60
Yes; Society is our bubble; Sweeney Dec 2014 #66
Poster's been banned. pinto Dec 2014 #39
I'm not gay; but I might pretend to be. Sweeney Dec 2014 #54
I'd edit or delete that. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #56
Indeed and with the alert trolling going on, somebody might just fire away. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #61
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