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105. I believe there is no such thing as sin (nt)

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Is it a sin to have more than $400,000 in stocks, money, and not give at least half of it to your [View all] randys1 Dec 2014 OP

Depends on your beliefs. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #1

What would Jesus do? randys1 Dec 2014 #2

He would give it all away. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #4

Jesus had a retirement plan lastlib Dec 2014 #133

Not me, I dont claim to be a christian in one breath and then do or say something terribly randys1 Dec 2014 #137

Since you don't claim to be a christian ever, that's a pretty easy one, cbayer Dec 2014 #139

Ever? I was in catholic school for 11 years, became a born again christian watching randys1 Dec 2014 #141

Sorry, I meant in the present. cbayer Dec 2014 #143

Did you respond to the wrong post? i don't get your response. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #145

What would you do? n/t LTX Dec 2014 #127

IMHO, Jesus would give it all away. cbayer Dec 2014 #3

What does Jesus tell you to do with your wealth? randys1 Dec 2014 #6

Tell who? Are you referring to the stories about Jesus or cbayer Dec 2014 #7

stories randys1 Dec 2014 #8

The stories I was raised with said give it all away. cbayer Dec 2014 #9

So if Jesus commands you do this, why dont you? randys1 Dec 2014 #10

You are asking the wrong person. cbayer Dec 2014 #13

Arent you one of the most outspoken Christians here? randys1 Dec 2014 #15

Er, no, but you are not the first to make very mistaken assumptions about me. cbayer Dec 2014 #17

Could have sworn I see you comment on everything religion, arent you a devout christian? randys1 Dec 2014 #23

I'm not a christian at all. I'm just a non-believer who is not like you, cbayer Dec 2014 #27

Funny how so many people come to that conclusion though, innit? AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #53

Many of us here were raised in various Christain faiths and because we were we can and do jwirr Dec 2014 #112

I think it is human nature goldent Jan 2015 #163

Oh you fell into the trap and made somebody's day! Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #25

She gets that a lot Lordquinton Dec 2014 #157

Are you calling me an anti-atheist? Seriously? cbayer Dec 2014 #158

"Let's use a little of that sacred reason and rational thinking here..." cleanhippie Dec 2014 #159

Whoa. trotsky Dec 2014 #160

Come now! Just because you are atheist doesn't mean you use goldent Jan 2015 #164

That is abundantly clear for some individuals. cbayer Jan 2015 #165

She said with a shrug. Funny, that. n/t bvf Dec 2014 #119

Of course not FBaggins Dec 2014 #5

"When did sin ever have a dollar figure attached to it?" bvf Dec 2014 #122

What if that's your only source of money to live on? SheilaT Dec 2014 #11

But Jesus said ... This question is for Christians only obviously randys1 Dec 2014 #12

What exactly did Jesus say, in your opinion? cbayer Dec 2014 #14

YOu tell me, or you already did randys1 Dec 2014 #16

No, I only gave you my opinion, but you seem to have some ideas of your own. cbayer Dec 2014 #19

I am not a christian, and why doesnt his direction to give your money away apply to you or randys1 Dec 2014 #20

Where did give me such direction? nt FBaggins Dec 2014 #21

If you are a christian you must know where randys1 Dec 2014 #26

I am... and I know instead... FBaggins Dec 2014 #31

Jesus doesnt say anything about rich people not getting into heaven? randys1 Dec 2014 #33

Nope. FBaggins Dec 2014 #48

Who said the thing about eye of the needle? randys1 Dec 2014 #54

Jesus of course FBaggins Dec 2014 #62

Winner. Ink Man Dec 2014 #73

I am so glad that you explained this and explained it so well. cbayer Dec 2014 #74

But you can, can't you? Jesus gives many examples of actions that will get you into heaven, no? eomer Jan 2015 #168

Not within orthodox christian theology... no. FBaggins Jan 2015 #169

So is the translation incorrect, is that what you're saying? eomer Jan 2015 #170

It's a loophole most Christians have been using for a very long time... trotsky Dec 2014 #79

Degree of difficulty of camel bvf Dec 2014 #98

I'm not a christian either, so why should Jesus's directions apply more to me than you? cbayer Dec 2014 #22

you arent a christian? WHAT? i am so sorry, what are you then? randys1 Dec 2014 #24

I know this totally messes with your agenda. cbayer Dec 2014 #28

I just did randys1 Dec 2014 #29

Maybe you should read more in the religion forum instead of trying to entrap cbayer Dec 2014 #35

Like I said, I apologize, you spend so much time defending religion I thought you were religious randys1 Dec 2014 #36

Don't apologize. This ploy is deliberate. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #44

No ploy, I didnt know she was even going to respond to the thread. randys1 Dec 2014 #46

She is religious. She is an agnostic theist. And a staunch defender of all Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #52

Oh, now to tell the truth I did not know that... randys1 Dec 2014 #55

What ploy? hrmjustin Dec 2014 #49

Oh, wait, you totally edited your post (repeatedly) while I was responding to you. cbayer Dec 2014 #32

So you arent a christian or muslim or jewish, I apologize it is just that I see you posting randys1 Dec 2014 #34

The fact that you feel you need to apologize says a lot. cbayer Dec 2014 #40

No, the apology had nothing to do with disrespect for religion, but you still wont say that you are randys1 Dec 2014 #42

I will answer any question you want about my personal position regarding religion, so cbayer Dec 2014 #45

I started the thread having nothing to do with you, your answer here is an interesting randys1 Dec 2014 #50

Oh, it's crystal clear that you and I don't share the same feelings cbayer Dec 2014 #59

We already work together if we vote for the Democrat no matter who it is given the alternative is randys1 Dec 2014 #61

It's not about creating more tolerance, it's about stamping out intolerance. cbayer Dec 2014 #67

Any further questions for me? cbayer Dec 2014 #123

Don't be cute. bvf Dec 2014 #147

The fact that you apologized is now being used to beat you over the head. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #47

But I am still confused, how can she be a non believer yet so prolific and so argumentative? randys1 Dec 2014 #56

Well that would be one obvious explanation. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #57

Good point, and given the fact that american christianity, yes mostly rightwingers, causes so randys1 Dec 2014 #60

Modern christians simply throw away bvf Dec 2014 #148

Who do you loathe more, believers or agnostics? rug Dec 2014 #83

She is a non-believer but does not hate religion. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #58

To imply that I hate religion is to assign some nonintellectual basis to my concerns; randys1 Dec 2014 #63

I was not implying that you hate it. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #64

So Christians are supposed to impoverish themselves? SheilaT Dec 2014 #51

Many Christians do impoverish themselves Mariana Dec 2014 #70

Hey! The system works! n/t. bvf Dec 2014 #150

According to the Gospels, yes they are. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2014 #155

What a shame more self-professed Christians don't behave that way. SheilaT Dec 2014 #156

I don't think Jesus needed cash. Phlem Dec 2014 #18

Did you get your end of the year statement? rug Dec 2014 #30

I would say many who have a few bucks gives to charity, it is a tax write off if nothing else. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #37

I am giving to this place at the moment randys1 Dec 2014 #39

I feel sure each one has their own sweet projects they donate. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #65

It depends on your age and where you live yeoman6987 Dec 2014 #38

Not the point, the question is at what point do you do what Jesus said to do, surely there is randys1 Dec 2014 #41

We have the example of the early Christians in the Book of Acts. Mariana Dec 2014 #72

I thought 10% was the standard. Not sure where I got that idea. --nt CrispyQ Dec 2014 #43

That's what most churches demand from their members Mariana Dec 2014 #71

Tithing is not a "demand". People are encouraged to tithe, but there is not requirement. cbayer Dec 2014 #77

Is 400k a lot of money ??? Historic NY Dec 2014 #66

Yes, it is. rug Dec 2014 #78

Stocks and bonds are fleeting here one day gone the next... Historic NY Dec 2014 #96

There's a bigger difference between having assets and having a paycheck and rent. rug Dec 2014 #99

Based on his subsequent comments, the writer of the OP No Vested Interest Dec 2014 #68

The Bible makes it crystal clear Cartoonist Dec 2014 #69

If you truly want to understand the camel analogy, read post #62... cbayer Dec 2014 #75

You paint with a broad brush! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #76

I need to Cartoonist Dec 2014 #84

Your comment makes it seem like believers don't really do anything for the poor. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #86

Yes you are Cartoonist Dec 2014 #89

Your post seemed to me to be speaking to us all. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #92

I see few exceptions Cartoonist Dec 2014 #94

The room was not a good fit for you. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #95

I followed the SOP Cartoonist Dec 2014 #100

Well all of the hosts including myself disagreed! hrmjustin Dec 2014 #101

That's my point about hypocricy Cartoonist Dec 2014 #103

Well the hosts decide what is appropriate in the rooms. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #104

Change the SOP Cartoonist Dec 2014 #107

Non-believers do post in there. hrmjustin Dec 2014 #108

Lol, you need a broad brush to paint walls but a finer one to indicate that cbayer Dec 2014 #88

How about this Cartoonist Dec 2014 #91

What is your definition of "true Christian"? cbayer Dec 2014 #93

How I measure up Cartoonist Dec 2014 #97

I did't ask if you accepted divinity or not. I know that you don't. I don't either. cbayer Dec 2014 #102

Call me out on my hypocricy Cartoonist Dec 2014 #106

On one thing we can agree, I think. cbayer Dec 2014 #109

The story about a rich man not being able to enter heaven pangaia Dec 2014 #115

Really? Cartoonist Dec 2014 #117

Really. pangaia Dec 2014 #120

So what is the definition of rich? Cartoonist Dec 2014 #134

I don't think you are really interested. pangaia Dec 2014 #135

That's a non-answer Cartoonist Dec 2014 #152

I did answer. pangaia Dec 2014 #153

Define 'have'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #80

I like the way you think, Erich. cbayer Dec 2014 #82

For me, it's simply socialism. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #90

400,000? You mean the price rjsquirrel Dec 2014 #81

Hey there, rjsquirrel! Welcome to religion. cbayer Dec 2014 #87

Hey there, cbayer! Welcome to religion. Warren Stupidity Dec 2014 #154

I challenge you on all points rjsquirrel Jan 2015 #166

You may challenge me, but it will be meaningless unless you can provide some cbayer Jan 2015 #167

Half to poor people? and Defense? I havent heard that, half? really? randys1 Dec 2014 #136

I don't think Jesus gave away all his money. Was he ever mentioned in any of the 'stories' Sunlei Dec 2014 #85

I believe there is no such thing as sin (nt) LostOne4Ever Dec 2014 #105

Woooo - hot thread. Love it! cilla4progress Dec 2014 #110

I like that. Could we also apply it to other things? cbayer Dec 2014 #111

I think so. cilla4progress Dec 2014 #113

I like your religion. cbayer Dec 2014 #114

'zactly cilla4progress Dec 2014 #116

The Golden Rule. I should have it tattooed on my forearm, lol. cbayer Dec 2014 #118

I think "should" is not called for cilla4progress Dec 2014 #121

I agree in theory but not in practice. cbayer Dec 2014 #124

I suppose I agree.. cilla4progress Dec 2014 #125

And that would be consistent with following the golden rule, I think. cbayer Dec 2014 #126

Definitely. cilla4progress Dec 2014 #128

Personally, I find the filthy christian bastards who "give to the poor" disgusting. LTX Dec 2014 #129

Well played, LTX. cbayer Dec 2014 #131

If you do the math on a personal retirement, $400,000 will not provide a large distribution on a Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #130

No. Not necessarily. NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #132

The figure isnt relevant to my point that a real, true christian would give most of their money randys1 Dec 2014 #138

If that is your take away, you have learned little from this thread. cbayer Dec 2014 #140

I have learned little, huh LOL oh my... randys1 Dec 2014 #142

So, randys1, would you mind telling me what you have learned? cbayer Dec 2014 #144

Damn Xtians!!! And, Damn Visigoths! NYC_SKP Dec 2014 #146

And Vegans! And, most especially, the gluten intolerant. cbayer Dec 2014 #149

No, it is not sin in any religon I've heard of, ceartainly not Christainity. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #151

Now that's a good question Prophet 451 Dec 2014 #161

Well, I hope you win the lottery! cbayer Dec 2014 #162

No. Iggo Jan 2015 #171