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In reply to the discussion: Is it a sin to have more than $400,000 in stocks, money, and not give at least half of it to your [View all]eomer
(3,845 posts)168. But you can, can't you? Jesus gives many examples of actions that will get you into heaven, no?
Regarding wealth, since that's what's being discussed in this subthread, he does say something that a wealthy person can do to get into heaven:
Matthew 19 (bolding added by me):
16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?
17 Why do you ask me about what is good? Jesus replied. There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.
18 Which ones? he inquired.
Jesus replied, You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,[c] and love your neighbor as yourself.[d]
20 All these I have kept, the young man said. What do I still lack?
21 Jesus answered, If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, Who then can be saved?
26 Jesus looked at them and said, With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.
27 Peter answered him, We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?
28 Jesus said to them, Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[e] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
17 Why do you ask me about what is good? Jesus replied. There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.
18 Which ones? he inquired.
Jesus replied, You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,[c] and love your neighbor as yourself.[d]
20 All these I have kept, the young man said. What do I still lack?
21 Jesus answered, If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.
22 When the young man heard this, he went away sad, because he had great wealth.
23 Then Jesus said to his disciples, Truly I tell you, it is hard for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.
25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, Who then can be saved?
26 Jesus looked at them and said, With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.
27 Peter answered him, We have left everything to follow you! What then will there be for us?
28 Jesus said to them, Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man sits on his glorious throne, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or wife[e] or children or fields for my sake will receive a hundred times as much and will inherit eternal life. 30 But many who are first will be last, and many who are last will be first.
He gives many other examples of a thing that will get you into heaven if you just do that one thing.
It seems to me either your meaning isn't so clear or else you're in disagreement with things that Jesus said (as told in the Bible - not saying that I personally believe these are actual quotes of an actual person).
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Is it a sin to have more than $400,000 in stocks, money, and not give at least half of it to your [View all]
randys1
Dec 2014
OP
Not me, I dont claim to be a christian in one breath and then do or say something terribly
randys1
Dec 2014
#137
Ever? I was in catholic school for 11 years, became a born again christian watching
randys1
Dec 2014
#141
Could have sworn I see you comment on everything religion, arent you a devout christian?
randys1
Dec 2014
#23
Many of us here were raised in various Christain faiths and because we were we can and do
jwirr
Dec 2014
#112
I am not a christian, and why doesnt his direction to give your money away apply to you or
randys1
Dec 2014
#20
But you can, can't you? Jesus gives many examples of actions that will get you into heaven, no?
eomer
Jan 2015
#168
I'm not a christian either, so why should Jesus's directions apply more to me than you?
cbayer
Dec 2014
#22
Like I said, I apologize, you spend so much time defending religion I thought you were religious
randys1
Dec 2014
#36
She is religious. She is an agnostic theist. And a staunch defender of all
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#52
Oh, wait, you totally edited your post (repeatedly) while I was responding to you.
cbayer
Dec 2014
#32
So you arent a christian or muslim or jewish, I apologize it is just that I see you posting
randys1
Dec 2014
#34
No, the apology had nothing to do with disrespect for religion, but you still wont say that you are
randys1
Dec 2014
#42
I will answer any question you want about my personal position regarding religion, so
cbayer
Dec 2014
#45
I started the thread having nothing to do with you, your answer here is an interesting
randys1
Dec 2014
#50
We already work together if we vote for the Democrat no matter who it is given the alternative is
randys1
Dec 2014
#61
The fact that you apologized is now being used to beat you over the head.
Warren Stupidity
Dec 2014
#47
But I am still confused, how can she be a non believer yet so prolific and so argumentative?
randys1
Dec 2014
#56
Good point, and given the fact that american christianity, yes mostly rightwingers, causes so
randys1
Dec 2014
#60
To imply that I hate religion is to assign some nonintellectual basis to my concerns;
randys1
Dec 2014
#63
I would say many who have a few bucks gives to charity, it is a tax write off if nothing else.
Thinkingabout
Dec 2014
#37
Not the point, the question is at what point do you do what Jesus said to do, surely there is
randys1
Dec 2014
#41
Tithing is not a "demand". People are encouraged to tithe, but there is not requirement.
cbayer
Dec 2014
#77
Your comment makes it seem like believers don't really do anything for the poor.
hrmjustin
Dec 2014
#86
I did't ask if you accepted divinity or not. I know that you don't. I don't either.
cbayer
Dec 2014
#102
I don't think Jesus gave away all his money. Was he ever mentioned in any of the 'stories'
Sunlei
Dec 2014
#85
Personally, I find the filthy christian bastards who "give to the poor" disgusting.
LTX
Dec 2014
#129
If you do the math on a personal retirement, $400,000 will not provide a large distribution on a
Thinkingabout
Dec 2014
#130
The figure isnt relevant to my point that a real, true christian would give most of their money
randys1
Dec 2014
#138
No, it is not sin in any religon I've heard of, ceartainly not Christainity.
Agnosticsherbet
Dec 2014
#151