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14. A message that can easily be adopted by anyone, not just atheists.

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The Case Against In-Your-Face Atheism [View all] cbayer Jan 2015 OP

This should be one of those nobrainers... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #1

Agree, particularly, as he points out, when it threatens someone's identity. cbayer Jan 2015 #3

yes musn't threaten anyone's identity. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #133

yeah a few people in paris are missing parts of their brains. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #132

Silly is kind of a childish word to use. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #2

So, if a post seems nonsensical, frivolous, pointless and empty, can I call it silly. cbayer Jan 2015 #4

The OP objected to the word silly. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #5

The OP objected to more than that. TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #6

I only help where I can. nt Cartoonist Jan 2015 #10

I have one hope for you and that is that you read the article with cbayer Jan 2015 #13

None of it applies Cartoonist Jan 2015 #15

That's unfortunate. Then I guess I won't expect anything different from cbayer Jan 2015 #17

What? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #23

Not for a second, but I am a rather optimistic person, cbayer Jan 2015 #26

How is providing a list of synonyms for a word he objects to helpful? cbayer Jan 2015 #7

That's a silly point. rug Jan 2015 #20

I think you missed the point. goldent Jan 2015 #34

"In other words, don�t be a jerk" rug Jan 2015 #8

A message that can easily be adopted by anyone, not just atheists. cbayer Jan 2015 #14

In my experience, it really doesn't matter how you talk to them about religion kdmorris Jan 2015 #9

I don't know. Maybe if people are defensive you are not coming across as quite cbayer Jan 2015 #12

Bigotry Cartoonist Jan 2015 #16

If I said I objected to atheism and all its evils, would that be bigotry? cbayer Jan 2015 #18

If you honestly feel that atheism is evil, Cartoonist Jan 2015 #21

I didn't ask whether you would accept my objection. cbayer Jan 2015 #24

Are you comparing religious people to rapists? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #27

Yes, you are comparing one bad thing (rape) with another bad thing (religious belief). cbayer Jan 2015 #32

Is that correct? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #42

I am not incapable of understanding your point of view, I cbayer Jan 2015 #47

Bring it on! Cartoonist Jan 2015 #49

Bring it on? That's somewhat more aggressive than I tend to be. cbayer Jan 2015 #50

The fact that you disagree with it is not at all surprising. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #52

Oh, sir, I am not in the least riled up. cbayer Jan 2015 #54

"I object to religion and all its evils." Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #19

Do you not object to evil? nt Cartoonist Jan 2015 #22

Define "evil" Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #45

Evil Cartoonist Jan 2015 #48

"Evil is doing bad things" Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #71

We see the same thing happening in the New Atheist movement. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #74

You honestly think beheadings have anything to do with religion? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #78

They most certainly are religious inspired. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #79

Interesting little dance you did there. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #84

I see good and evil. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #86

Please point to a recent beheading by a Christian, a Jew, or member of any religion whathehell Jan 2015 #80

Why does it have to be recent? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #83

Maybe because society changes over time? okasha Jan 2015 #87

Your opinion is irrelevant Cartoonist Jan 2015 #88

You're making evev less sense than usual. okasha Jan 2015 #92

The revolution was against the aristocracy Cartoonist Jan 2015 #94

The people did in fact rise up against the aristocracy. okasha Jan 2015 #97

I agree with that. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #98

"Please point to a recent beheading by an Atheist" It's the same frame you used in post #74 whathehell Jan 2015 #105

Thank you. whathehell Jan 2015 #82

Evil is doing bad things" okasha Jan 2015 #85

OK. let me try again Cartoonist Jan 2015 #91

That's a list of examples, okasha Jan 2015 #93

I'm not going to bother. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #95

How would you know? kdmorris Jan 2015 #28

How would I know what? cbayer Jan 2015 #33

How would you know I wasn't loving enough? kdmorris Jan 2015 #53

I fell that you are trapping me again, so I'm going to bow out. cbayer Jan 2015 #55

The saying about not discussing religion or politics is as old as the hills goldent Jan 2015 #39

Sounds like Ink Man Jan 2015 #11

The Case Against In-Your-Face Liberalism Cartoonist Jan 2015 #25

I think his argument could be made for any group that is employing cbayer Jan 2015 #29

You don't get to define 'in your face'. School re-integration was undoubtably described as 'in your AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #30

Excellent point. trotsky Jan 2015 #51

I am really glad there are many kinds of atheists out there. trotsky Jan 2015 #31

The case against in your face civil rights activists. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #35

The case against in your face LGBTQ activists. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #36

The case against pointing out the emperor is butt-ass naked. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #37

Well almost all the athiests I know in real life are live and let live type people. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #38

My experience is the same IRL. cbayer Jan 2015 #40

My experience is the same as yours. goldent Jan 2015 #41

I am a little different in public life. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #46

It's odd because most of the believers I know IRL kdmorris Jan 2015 #56

I am so sorry you had to experience this. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #58

Not in my experience shenmue Jan 2015 #57

I am sorry to hear this. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #59

This is a political site. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #76

Sometimes, it's best to explain why you mmonk Jan 2015 #43

And then there are folks like the Phelps Clan / WBC... trotsky Jan 2015 #44

True. But everyone recognizes that. mmonk Jan 2015 #107

Does everyone recognize that the rest of the religious assholes on the other side of disgusting from Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #108

My point is style related, not about double standards mmonk Jan 2015 #109

Which is classic tone trolling. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #110

LOL. Ok. mmonk Jan 2015 #112

which is exactly the same response met when feminists and others object to tone trolling. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #114

In a way. But not exactly. I'd rather start mmonk Jan 2015 #124

I'm an atheist I work for catholics gwheezie Jan 2015 #60

I really value the position you take here. cbayer Jan 2015 #62

Is it just you that has to be harmed? jeff47 Jan 2015 #65

I'd be interested in knowing more about your getting fired. cbayer Jan 2015 #68

It was a multinational retail corporation. jeff47 Jan 2015 #75

I am so sorry that happened to you. cbayer Jan 2015 #77

If I got fired for being atheist gwheezie Jan 2015 #70

Which is how mutual respect, okasha Jan 2015 #81

,,,If that was the only reason, you had a ready legal remedy. rug Jan 2015 #72

It was, but multinational corporations have a few more resources available jeff47 Jan 2015 #73

Yes, quiet acquiescence has always changed the world. jeff47 Jan 2015 #61

Well, if that bore any resemblance whatsoever with what the author is saying, cbayer Jan 2015 #63

Actually, it bears a lot of resemblence jeff47 Jan 2015 #64

Actually, it doesn't. cbayer Jan 2015 #67

In Taoist/ eastern philosophy LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #66

I think your points are valid. cbayer Jan 2015 #69

In-Your-Face Religion is more harmful to religion... greendog Jan 2015 #89

What is "the cause of atheism"? rug Jan 2015 #90

The sooner religious privilege goes away... MellowDem Jan 2015 #96

The sooner white, patriarchal, heterosexual, economic privilege goes away, okasha Jan 2015 #99

Their strongest ally Cartoonist Jan 2015 #100

Their strongest allies are economic disparity and the financial system. okasha Jan 2015 #102

+1 rug Jan 2015 #104

Glad you're on board nt MellowDem Jan 2015 #115

Too bad you're not. okasha Jan 2015 #117

What makes you say that? MellowDem Jan 2015 #121

In your face theism is all over Lordquinton Jan 2015 #101

Well said. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #113

Very well said indeed, I thank you for that! n/t haikugal Jan 2015 #129

sigh Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #103

Well said whathehell Jan 2015 #106

Well said. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #120

Theism is in a very privileged position... MellowDem Jan 2015 #130

OK Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #134

I don't know what you feel when you pray. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #138

The same old... NeoGreen Jan 2015 #111

The sad but important thing is that the panels could be cbayer Jan 2015 #116

In response... NeoGreen Jan 2015 #122

In terms of the "stay quiet" invective, it all depends on the population you are looking at. cbayer Jan 2015 #123

In western societies where atheism is predominate it's not an issue Fumesucker Jan 2015 #125

Actually, it is in the west where we are seeing a pretty impressive cbayer Jan 2015 #126

That's happening in places where atheists are in the minority Fumesucker Jan 2015 #127

Not really. The biggest Sunday Assembly groups are in cbayer Jan 2015 #128

Right as usual. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #135

So because people take their religions far too seriously, we have to tip toe around them? Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #118

What about those individuals that find some relevance in faith based stories, examples or whatever? pinto Jan 2015 #119

What relevance does your post have to mine? Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #136

I find relevance in Harry Potter Lordquinton Jan 2015 #137

Well you might get murdered. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #131