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gwheezie

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70. If I got fired for being atheist

Sun Jan 4, 2015, 05:19 PM

Jan 2015

That is harm. If that happened to you then it is out of bounds and illegal.
When I talk about harm I am also talking emotionally and spiritually. I don't view disagreement as being harmful. Also is someone damns me or sends me to hell that really has no meaning to me. I think all religions have factions that take it to an extreme and I would oppose those extremes as well as any society that causes harm to religious people. People believe all kinds of things that can't be proved. People also believe in things that have been proven incorrect.
I've been an atheist most of my life. I know most people I know are not atheists. The people I work for are not atheists. What we do have to commit to where I work is to help the poor and dying. They know I'm an atheist. I've been there 15 years. It has not been difficult. If anything I think since very religious people have seen I have the same commitment to helping the poor and dying without a belief in God it has changed their opinion of atheists.

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The Case Against In-Your-Face Atheism [View all] cbayer Jan 2015 OP

This should be one of those nobrainers... TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #1

Agree, particularly, as he points out, when it threatens someone's identity. cbayer Jan 2015 #3

yes musn't threaten anyone's identity. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #133

yeah a few people in paris are missing parts of their brains. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #132

Silly is kind of a childish word to use. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #2

So, if a post seems nonsensical, frivolous, pointless and empty, can I call it silly. cbayer Jan 2015 #4

The OP objected to the word silly. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #5

The OP objected to more than that. TreasonousBastard Jan 2015 #6

I only help where I can. nt Cartoonist Jan 2015 #10

I have one hope for you and that is that you read the article with cbayer Jan 2015 #13

None of it applies Cartoonist Jan 2015 #15

That's unfortunate. Then I guess I won't expect anything different from cbayer Jan 2015 #17

What? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #23

Not for a second, but I am a rather optimistic person, cbayer Jan 2015 #26

How is providing a list of synonyms for a word he objects to helpful? cbayer Jan 2015 #7

That's a silly point. rug Jan 2015 #20

I think you missed the point. goldent Jan 2015 #34

"In other words, don�t be a jerk" rug Jan 2015 #8

A message that can easily be adopted by anyone, not just atheists. cbayer Jan 2015 #14

In my experience, it really doesn't matter how you talk to them about religion kdmorris Jan 2015 #9

I don't know. Maybe if people are defensive you are not coming across as quite cbayer Jan 2015 #12

Bigotry Cartoonist Jan 2015 #16

If I said I objected to atheism and all its evils, would that be bigotry? cbayer Jan 2015 #18

If you honestly feel that atheism is evil, Cartoonist Jan 2015 #21

I didn't ask whether you would accept my objection. cbayer Jan 2015 #24

Are you comparing religious people to rapists? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #27

Yes, you are comparing one bad thing (rape) with another bad thing (religious belief). cbayer Jan 2015 #32

Is that correct? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #42

I am not incapable of understanding your point of view, I cbayer Jan 2015 #47

Bring it on! Cartoonist Jan 2015 #49

Bring it on? That's somewhat more aggressive than I tend to be. cbayer Jan 2015 #50

The fact that you disagree with it is not at all surprising. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #52

Oh, sir, I am not in the least riled up. cbayer Jan 2015 #54

"I object to religion and all its evils." Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #19

Do you not object to evil? nt Cartoonist Jan 2015 #22

Define "evil" Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #45

Evil Cartoonist Jan 2015 #48

"Evil is doing bad things" Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #71

We see the same thing happening in the New Atheist movement. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #74

You honestly think beheadings have anything to do with religion? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #78

They most certainly are religious inspired. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #79

Interesting little dance you did there. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #84

I see good and evil. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #86

Please point to a recent beheading by a Christian, a Jew, or member of any religion whathehell Jan 2015 #80

Why does it have to be recent? Cartoonist Jan 2015 #83

Maybe because society changes over time? okasha Jan 2015 #87

Your opinion is irrelevant Cartoonist Jan 2015 #88

You're making evev less sense than usual. okasha Jan 2015 #92

The revolution was against the aristocracy Cartoonist Jan 2015 #94

The people did in fact rise up against the aristocracy. okasha Jan 2015 #97

I agree with that. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #98

"Please point to a recent beheading by an Atheist" It's the same frame you used in post #74 whathehell Jan 2015 #105

Thank you. whathehell Jan 2015 #82

Evil is doing bad things" okasha Jan 2015 #85

OK. let me try again Cartoonist Jan 2015 #91

That's a list of examples, okasha Jan 2015 #93

I'm not going to bother. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #95

How would you know? kdmorris Jan 2015 #28

How would I know what? cbayer Jan 2015 #33

How would you know I wasn't loving enough? kdmorris Jan 2015 #53

I fell that you are trapping me again, so I'm going to bow out. cbayer Jan 2015 #55

The saying about not discussing religion or politics is as old as the hills goldent Jan 2015 #39

Sounds like Ink Man Jan 2015 #11

The Case Against In-Your-Face Liberalism Cartoonist Jan 2015 #25

I think his argument could be made for any group that is employing cbayer Jan 2015 #29

You don't get to define 'in your face'. School re-integration was undoubtably described as 'in your AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #30

Excellent point. trotsky Jan 2015 #51

I am really glad there are many kinds of atheists out there. trotsky Jan 2015 #31

The case against in your face civil rights activists. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #35

The case against in your face LGBTQ activists. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #36

The case against pointing out the emperor is butt-ass naked. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #37

Well almost all the athiests I know in real life are live and let live type people. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #38

My experience is the same IRL. cbayer Jan 2015 #40

My experience is the same as yours. goldent Jan 2015 #41

I am a little different in public life. Cartoonist Jan 2015 #46

It's odd because most of the believers I know IRL kdmorris Jan 2015 #56

I am so sorry you had to experience this. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #58

Not in my experience shenmue Jan 2015 #57

I am sorry to hear this. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #59

This is a political site. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #76

Sometimes, it's best to explain why you mmonk Jan 2015 #43

And then there are folks like the Phelps Clan / WBC... trotsky Jan 2015 #44

True. But everyone recognizes that. mmonk Jan 2015 #107

Does everyone recognize that the rest of the religious assholes on the other side of disgusting from Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #108

My point is style related, not about double standards mmonk Jan 2015 #109

Which is classic tone trolling. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #110

LOL. Ok. mmonk Jan 2015 #112

which is exactly the same response met when feminists and others object to tone trolling. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #114

In a way. But not exactly. I'd rather start mmonk Jan 2015 #124

I'm an atheist I work for catholics gwheezie Jan 2015 #60

I really value the position you take here. cbayer Jan 2015 #62

Is it just you that has to be harmed? jeff47 Jan 2015 #65

I'd be interested in knowing more about your getting fired. cbayer Jan 2015 #68

It was a multinational retail corporation. jeff47 Jan 2015 #75

I am so sorry that happened to you. cbayer Jan 2015 #77

If I got fired for being atheist gwheezie Jan 2015 #70

Which is how mutual respect, okasha Jan 2015 #81

,,,If that was the only reason, you had a ready legal remedy. rug Jan 2015 #72

It was, but multinational corporations have a few more resources available jeff47 Jan 2015 #73

Yes, quiet acquiescence has always changed the world. jeff47 Jan 2015 #61

Well, if that bore any resemblance whatsoever with what the author is saying, cbayer Jan 2015 #63

Actually, it bears a lot of resemblence jeff47 Jan 2015 #64

Actually, it doesn't. cbayer Jan 2015 #67

In Taoist/ eastern philosophy LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #66

I think your points are valid. cbayer Jan 2015 #69

In-Your-Face Religion is more harmful to religion... greendog Jan 2015 #89

What is "the cause of atheism"? rug Jan 2015 #90

The sooner religious privilege goes away... MellowDem Jan 2015 #96

The sooner white, patriarchal, heterosexual, economic privilege goes away, okasha Jan 2015 #99

Their strongest ally Cartoonist Jan 2015 #100

Their strongest allies are economic disparity and the financial system. okasha Jan 2015 #102

+1 rug Jan 2015 #104

Glad you're on board nt MellowDem Jan 2015 #115

Too bad you're not. okasha Jan 2015 #117

What makes you say that? MellowDem Jan 2015 #121

In your face theism is all over Lordquinton Jan 2015 #101

Well said. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #113

Very well said indeed, I thank you for that! n/t haikugal Jan 2015 #129

sigh Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #103

Well said whathehell Jan 2015 #106

Well said. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #120

Theism is in a very privileged position... MellowDem Jan 2015 #130

OK Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #134

I don't know what you feel when you pray. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #138

The same old... NeoGreen Jan 2015 #111

The sad but important thing is that the panels could be cbayer Jan 2015 #116

In response... NeoGreen Jan 2015 #122

In terms of the "stay quiet" invective, it all depends on the population you are looking at. cbayer Jan 2015 #123

In western societies where atheism is predominate it's not an issue Fumesucker Jan 2015 #125

Actually, it is in the west where we are seeing a pretty impressive cbayer Jan 2015 #126

That's happening in places where atheists are in the minority Fumesucker Jan 2015 #127

Not really. The biggest Sunday Assembly groups are in cbayer Jan 2015 #128

Right as usual. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #135

So because people take their religions far too seriously, we have to tip toe around them? Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #118

What about those individuals that find some relevance in faith based stories, examples or whatever? pinto Jan 2015 #119

What relevance does your post have to mine? Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #136

I find relevance in Harry Potter Lordquinton Jan 2015 #137

Well you might get murdered. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #131