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(Poll) On Neil deGrasse Tyson's use of "agnostic" versus his views on the existence of God. [View all]
Neil deGrasse Tyson (NDT): "I remain unconvinced by any claims anyone has ever made about the existence or the power of a divine force operating in the universe."
NDT prefers no label at all but if he has to pick one then he says that "agnostic" will give you the closest idea of his conduct and he prefers that label over "atheist". But I believe that many people will get the wrong idea about his views on the existence of God from "agnostic". I believe that most self-described atheists would say that his words above are an accurate statement of their views on existence. That's the case for me. And many people, in my opinion, take "agnostic" to mean a position more open than that to the existence.
So how about you? Especially if you self-identify as either atheist or agnostic, do NDT's above words accurately represent your views?
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I self-identify as "atheist" and NDT's words above are an accurate statement of my own views on existence. | |
10 (67%) |
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I self-identify as "agnostic" and NDT's words above are an accurate statement of my own views on existence. | |
5 (33%) |
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I self-identify as "atheist" and NDT's words above are NOT an accurate statement of my own views on existence. | |
0 (0%) |
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I self-identify as "agnostic" and NDT's words above are NOT an accurate statement of my own views on existence. | |
0 (0%) |
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I don't self identify as "atheist" or "agnostic" and I consider NDT's words above to be those of an atheist. | |
0 (0%) |
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I don't self identify as "atheist" or "agnostic" and I consider NDT's words above to be those of an agnostic. | |
0 (0%) |
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0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided. | |
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(Poll) On Neil deGrasse Tyson's use of "agnostic" versus his views on the existence of God. [View all]
eomer
Jan 2015
OP
Right, I understand those definitions but am saying that usage does not universally conform to them.
eomer
Jan 2015
#28
Right, but the question was about a person who assesses the probability as something between 0 and 1
eomer
Feb 2015
#148
Posting again to add something about these words, their meaning, and dictionaries.
eomer
Jan 2015
#27
NDT says he 'remains unconvinced.' I am positive there could be no evidence. Agnostic is probably a
Panich52
Feb 2015
#131
My connotations came long before there was an internet. But I'm a bit ashamed I'd neglected Huxley
Panich52
Feb 2015
#154
Fair point, but that's just my own view I offered in hopes that others would respond with theirs.
eomer
Jan 2015
#12
Do you have any evidence for any of your assertions, and stop inserting "scientific" when the proper
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2015
#21
True, no one needs to. It's their choice and I assume most will have already chosen.
eomer
Jan 2015
#16
Pascal's wager assumes that Pascal knows which of the many gods are the ones to worship
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2015
#24
Yes, exactly. NDT also laments the fact that there are not more words to express the nuances.
eomer
Jan 2015
#32
I think a huge part of it is that he more uses the language of science and...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2015
#70
Which is why, for the 1,000,000,0001th time: atheist and agnostic are not mutally exclusive.
Warren Stupidity
Jan 2015
#31
If those are the universally-accepted definitions then the dictionaries should reflect that.
eomer
Jan 2015
#33
I have a huge problem with the second definition for agnostic in both dictionaries...
Humanist_Activist
Jan 2015
#69
Belief is on a continuum? You are talking about mathematical objects, we are talking about objects..
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2015
#137
Not in a tangible sense, and many mathematical objects can't exist in our space-time...
Humanist_Activist
Feb 2015
#141
Both Christians and atheists sometimes try to define belief for agnostics. (nt)
stone space
Feb 2015
#94
"Disbelieve" literally means "does not believe" they are the same thing. (nt)
LostOne4Ever
Jan 2015
#50
the issue here is between technical precision and conveying meaning to a non-technical audience
whatthehey
Jan 2015
#51
Is it your contention that everyone who picked that option in the poll was lying?
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#122
No it doesn't. All it says is that some people embrace belief and some people reject it.
cbayer
Feb 2015
#130
Sometime I feel like atheism is more of a movement than the non-belief of a higher being.
RandySF
Feb 2015
#84
It's largely defensive and reactionary in the sense it's reacting to religious extremism.
Fumesucker
Feb 2015
#91