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AtheistCrusader

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21. I would suggest they observe, but not be indoctrinated.

Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:32 PM

Jan 2015

That goes for religious bullshit AND politics. Let them see, let them explore, let them form their own opinions.

Sticking them in sunday school isn't 'observing', it's indoctrination. If you wouldn't stick your kid in a mosque for the same duration classes, probably shouldn't do sunday school either.

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I respect everyone's right to participate in the religion of their choice... [View all] brooklynite Jan 2015 OP

As you should, and shouldn't. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #1

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I have no children...everybody else is on their own brooklynite Jan 2015 #3

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How exactly would you propose to do that? cbayer Jan 2015 #6

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Yes, you are making that choice for them cbayer Jan 2015 #10

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I hate to be the one to tell you TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #13

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Is that what happened to you? uppityperson Jan 2015 #17

GMTA, uppityperson. cbayer Jan 2015 #19

Before yesterday's news bs, meh. Good and bad and glad the sun is coming back. uppityperson Jan 2015 #20

I'm still waiting for things to cool off a bit. cbayer Jan 2015 #24

Always good to see you my friend! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #29

Let's start a pool. rug Jan 2015 #28

I picked 33 and I win! cbayer Jan 2015 #37

Shit. rug Jan 2015 #39

Damn I wish I made a bet. Well my guess he will be back tomorrow. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #38

The trolls will come out tomorrow. rug Jan 2015 #41

33 uppityperson Jan 2015 #43

How about this belief: In religion there are no legitimate positions. cbayer Jan 2015 #18

I am many things besides obtuse, pennyback. cbayer Jan 2015 #16

Note the CAPS! rug Jan 2015 #25

Might be a "relative" but Mark Charles is still on the loose. cbayer Jan 2015 #40

I don't think that was mark but I could be wrong. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #42

"In religion there are no legitimate positions." rug Jan 2015 #26

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No, that is your broad brush bias. rug Jan 2015 #30

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George Michael? The same George Michael who said this: cbayer Jan 2015 #34

You just met him. how do you know what he thinks? hrmjustin Jan 2015 #31

The ever constant tradewinds must have sailed it to him. nt NutmegYankee Jan 2015 #35

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I would suggest they observe, but not be indoctrinated. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #21

Does someone expect you to do otherwise? cbayer Jan 2015 #4

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Well, you just reiterated what the OP said, but didn't really answer my questions cbayer Jan 2015 #8

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I don't expect you to respect religion at all. cbayer Jan 2015 #15

Well on this you and I disagree! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #22

So love the sinner but hate the sin then? TM99 Jan 2015 #32

I walked out of Unitarian Sunday School when I was 8 brooklynite Jan 2015 #45

I was about that same age when I knew I was not religious. TM99 Jan 2015 #46

Feel free to show me a scientific treatise supporting your opinion brooklynite Jan 2015 #47

You didn't read a word I wrote. TM99 Jan 2015 #48

The very fact that people can and do choose and change their religions... brooklynite Jan 2015 #49

Hardly. TM99 Jan 2015 #50

I don't need to provide any evidence at all...I'm stating an opinion brooklynite Jan 2015 #51

Mine is an informed opinion TM99 Jan 2015 #54

Okay, for the purpose of discussion, I'll stipulate your point. My OP stands brooklynite Jan 2015 #55

I may agree that there are not in my opinion TM99 Jan 2015 #57

Delighted to know you get so much out of religions you don't believe in... brooklynite Jan 2015 #59

You are artificially stripping away a large part of their self-identity. TM99 Jan 2015 #61

You are entitled to your opinion about me...and I will strongly defend your right to hold it. brooklynite Jan 2015 #63

We are in complete agreement with each other on that point. TM99 Jan 2015 #64

I think "decision" is the wrong word Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #72

I agree with this and think that science will eventually show to what degree cbayer Jan 2015 #77

I'm not seeing a parallel between sexual identity of any shade or variety, and pretending your AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #52

There may be a genetic component to "religiosity". Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #53

Then there would likewise be a genetic component to irreligiosity. rug Jan 2015 #56

Even if there is a genetic compontent to religiosity, it is difficult to eliminate choice... Act_of_Reparation Jan 2015 #58

Depends on how they "participate". Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #44

I wanted to note that it is very, very interesting that you have chosen cbayer Jan 2015 #60

The song in question dates from before his adoption of islam brooklynite Jan 2015 #62

Nonsense, he was on a religious journey and it was clear. cbayer Jan 2015 #65

"FWIW, I think he adopted Islam in a very positive way. " brooklynite Jan 2015 #66

I was not aware of that specific quote, but I think his clarification is important. cbayer Jan 2015 #67

"Are you going to judge his entire take on Islam on one quote?" brooklynite Jan 2015 #68

How many Bible thumping preachers cite scripture that supports gays cbayer Jan 2015 #69

Yep - on issues of death and religious intolerance, I'm as dogmatic as they come. brooklynite Jan 2015 #70

Religious intolerance? I think that is what you exhibit, no? cbayer Jan 2015 #71

Can you not even respect them as a motivator? Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #73

There exists a closed-mindedness that exceeds that of religious zealots, I'm afraid. NYC_SKP Jan 2015 #74

I would argue that what happened in Paris occurred precisely because religion was a motivator... brooklynite Jan 2015 #75

I stand with Abe MannyGoldstein Jan 2015 #76