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101. Yes, it's become one of this clan's phony talking points

Sun Jan 18, 2015, 09:13 AM

Jan 2015

to claim that certain atheists are "taking the Bible literally", as a way of painting them as "fundamentalists" too, when any intelligent person knows that's not what's happening. Obviously (to any intellectually honest and sensible person)we don't take every word of the Bible as literally true or we wouldn't be atheists. We simply point out the vile behavior and attitudes of those who do take the Bible literally, and the hypocrisy of those who justify aspects of their religion as being Biblically based, while rejecting many other parts of the Bible without any evidence that they are any less the word of God than what they cling to.

I suspect that deep down some of them actually know this, but it's too convenient a smear for them to give up on, especially when they have nothing else.

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Pope: When religion insulted, freedom of expression not boundless [View all] trotsky Jan 2015 OP

He uses the phrase edhopper Jan 2015 #1

He's said a lot that has offended people. trotsky Jan 2015 #2

Like I said edhopper Jan 2015 #3

You nailed it. nt Ilsa Jan 2015 #6

Well obviously it's OK because he's right, and everyone else is wrong. trotsky Jan 2015 #7

Sure edhopper Jan 2015 #8

Yeah but which one... NeoGreen Jan 2015 #68

Faith has a thin skin. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #4

What I've been saying... Ilsa Jan 2015 #5

Yes. I think the Pope should request prayers for stronger faith, LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #9

What's a little disturbing too is his comparison... trotsky Jan 2015 #14

I find his choice of words disturbing. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #15

Very true! Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #11

True. But I don't have a Pope claiming special privilege. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #12

What special privilege is he claiming? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #20

So free speech doesn't apply to satire? Goblinmonger Jan 2015 #22

Except he is not claiming privilege. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #29

I think you are building straw men. Goblinmonger Jan 2015 #30

I would love to ask him exactly what he meant by that. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #43

so if religious belief includes treating women like trash Skittles Jan 2015 #52

Why would you respect such a thing? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #56

I DO NOT TOLERATE MISOGYNY AND HOMOPHOBIA FOR ANY REASON Skittles Jan 2015 #57

Neither do I, and no need to yell. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #59

Well that's just silly Goblinmonger Jan 2015 #60

To many his message is quite clear Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #64

OK, oh great one, enlighten me. Goblinmonger Jan 2015 #65

they cherry-pick like crazy Skittles Jan 2015 #88

Of course free speech applies to satire Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #33

Apparently physical assault is an acceptable 'consequence'. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #37

Who said it was "acceptable"? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #40

"But it�s normal, it�s normal.� - Captain WonderPope AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #44

Normal does not mean acceptable. Sorry. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #45

It's not "normal" either. AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #46

I normally don't accept them as synonyms Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #47

Not going to address the original actual quote then? AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #48

�If my good friend says a curse word against my mother, he can expect a punch,� Francis said cleanhippie Jan 2015 #63

And if someone insults your mother, how would you react? Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #66

So violence is a justifiable response to words. Got it. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #70

Obviously it is for some Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #81

You seem to be more incoherent than usual. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #83

I'd fucking kill them. Goblinmonger Jan 2015 #71

Latin American culture okasha Jan 2015 #84

Yep! Same applies in Italy Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #96

I would agree with you if I could change his words a little. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #25

I think one needs to take his words in context. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #31

Yes, the ever present "but". LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #34

And you have that right. Nobody here is saying you shouldn't. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #36

Getting punched in the face is the logical outcome. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #39

Reality testing and common sense are handy tools Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #41

You missed the point of my illustration, I take it. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #42

Patriarchy is independent okasha Jan 2015 #49

Should we not change it then because we are closely related to baboons? LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #50

Of course we should change it, okasha Jan 2015 #51

No. It codifies it as God's Word. It makes it harder, and even sinful, to call for change. LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #54

"cannot" - that word does not mean what you seem to think it means. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #27

Thanks for another valuable contribution to the public discourse! Act_of_Reparation Jan 2015 #21

Thanks! Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #35

I don't understand. Goblinmonger Jan 2015 #23

"Seems to be saying." You got it. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #38

Do you think/believe that murder... NeoGreen Jan 2015 #67

Nope. Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #82

I guess I hold to the idea... NeoGreen Jan 2015 #92

I agree 100% Starboard Tack Jan 2015 #95

Sure edhopper Jan 2015 #32

Yeah, I don't get it why religious people are offended when mocked. goldent Jan 2015 #98

You're right. For example, I find this offensive: LiberalAndProud Jan 2015 #100

Ah, the bigoted misogynist opens his mouth... MellowDem Jan 2015 #10

Shocking, isn't it? n/t trotsky Jan 2015 #13

really tired of being told I have to respect and tolerate crap Skittles Jan 2015 #58

I am interested in hearing edhopper Jan 2015 #16

Hasn't someone here on DU said pretty much the same thing? Goblinmonger Jan 2015 #17

Yes edhopper Jan 2015 #18

Well that was before it turned out alien shape-shifters carried out a false flag operation Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #28

Pope Frank said edhopper Jan 2015 #19

Oooohhhh trotsky Jan 2015 #24

I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men; she is to keep silent. wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #26

Go tell that to the Presiding Bishops okasha Jan 2015 #69

That was from the bible. I suppose they know scripture. Not wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #72

I do. okasha Jan 2015 #73

Oh yeah right ... the atheists are the problem with bible interpretations. wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #75

Yeah that's her "thing." trotsky Jan 2015 #77

Yes, it's become one of this clan's phony talking points skepticscott Jan 2015 #101

"especially when they have nothing else" trotsky Jan 2015 #102

Reading comprehension. okasha Jan 2015 #85

More reading comprehension. wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #86

Modifiers are necessary to precise thinking. okasha Jan 2015 #87

IOW Skittles Jan 2015 #89

,Nope. okasha Jan 2015 #90

uh huh Skittles Jan 2015 #91

Ta. okasha Jan 2015 #93

So you agree that the Vatican represents a "throwaway culture" that devalues women? trotsky Jan 2015 #74

Fuck the pope. longship Jan 2015 #53

You fuck the pope, i don't want to. isobar Jan 2015 #76

Aw, poor baby Warpy Jan 2015 #55

Religious leader says it is wrong to mock the religious. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2015 #61

Nobody likes it when someone interferes with their marketing campaign. n/t trotsky Jan 2015 #62

How about when religion insults the non-religious? Is that still unboundless freedom of expression? Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #78

And he did exactly that! trotsky Jan 2015 #79

Doh! Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #80

None of the pope's rabid apologists seem to grasp skepticscott Jan 2015 #94

Which of course no one, rabid or otherwise, is saying. rug Jan 2015 #99

He's wrong on this one Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #97