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Major Nikon

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24. I didn't say much of anything about Warren

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:17 AM

Jan 2015

If you ask me about him I'd say he, like the pope, preaches hate from the pulpit. So I'm not sure how you derived that I would draw the line any differently for Warren.

The allegation I was addressing is the ridiculous assumption that somehow Warren's hate automatically transfers to Obama via association. I don't believe that's true for Obama and Warren and I don't believe that's true for Catholics and the pope. The only person I agree with 100% is myself. I suspect that's true for most people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_fallacy

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Pope Francis: A symbol of hope and contradiction [View all] rug Jan 2015 OP

Who am I to judge? And gays are working for the devil Major Nikon Jan 2015 #1

Well done. The contradictions are glaring at times. cbayer Jan 2015 #2

There are things I like but there are disappointments with him. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #3

Claiming gay marriage is the work of the devil is a 'disappointment'? Major Nikon Jan 2015 #4

Yes I was highly disappointed in him. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #5

The work of the devil remark is loathsome, but he said it four years ago cbayer Jan 2015 #6

He repeated virtually the same thing this past week Major Nikon Jan 2015 #7

Agree that this is not a whole lot better, but I would prefer to pin cbayer Jan 2015 #8

The only area we disagree on is the standard by which someone should be deemed morally reprehensible Major Nikon Jan 2015 #9

I'm not sure that we disagree about that standard. cbayer Jan 2015 #10

It's relevant here because I don't give the pope a pass on hate Major Nikon Jan 2015 #11

Everyone who voted for Obama in 2008 okasha Jan 2015 #12

Obama opposed Prop 8, so I don't think it's a good idea to pretend otherwise Major Nikon Jan 2015 #13

Obama played both sides of the issue okasha Jan 2015 #16

"God isn't in the mix" is the same thing as gay marriage is the work of the devil? Major Nikon Jan 2015 #17

"Choosing to associate (support) someone doesn't mean you endorse everything cbayer Jan 2015 #19

Which is a good reason why one shouldn't consider Catholics ideologicly the same as the pope Major Nikon Jan 2015 #21

The only difference between what you said about Warren and what I say about the pope cbayer Jan 2015 #23

I didn't say much of anything about Warren Major Nikon Jan 2015 #24

The point was that you can support someone without supporting everything that they say or do. cbayer Jan 2015 #26

I think you are missing a degree of separation Major Nikon Jan 2015 #27

I think you are missing my point. cbayer Jan 2015 #29

It was someone else's point to begin with Major Nikon Jan 2015 #30

That is a completely different argument and one that I did not support. cbayer Jan 2015 #31

So what's the point of bringing up Obama at all in a discussion about the pope? Major Nikon Jan 2015 #32

I didn't bring Obama up, but I think I understand the point she was trying cbayer Jan 2015 #33

I don't think you do Major Nikon Jan 2015 #34

Look, you are trying to get me to speak for someone else, which I am cbayer Jan 2015 #35

You tried to tell me what their point was, unsolicited I might add Major Nikon Jan 2015 #36

Parsing, again - dead end. cbayer Jan 2015 #37

I don't think so Major Nikon Jan 2015 #38

I don't give him a pass either, I just am able to see him in more than one dimension. cbayer Jan 2015 #18

You are distorting what I actually wrote Major Nikon Jan 2015 #20

No, it's not a fair statement. I think his words are very relevant and that he has cbayer Jan 2015 #22

Then I am at a loss to understand what you are saying Major Nikon Jan 2015 #25

You are parsing which most likely means we are at a standoff, no? cbayer Jan 2015 #28

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