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guillaumeb

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72. true, but

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 03:37 PM

Feb 2015

while nonbelievers do not have a holy book or other specific text, the point I make is that in each case, belief or non-belief, the adherents in each side have strong feelings that their side is correct.

I might believe in one thing, you another, but the commonality here is belief itself. Belief does not imply a religion. I believe in Darwin's Theory of Adaptation even though it cannot be proven in every sense. I also believe in global climate change.

Maybe the problem is in the wording.
If I say, I think that global climate change is real versus
I believe that global climate change is real
am I saying two different things?

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Some See Extreme 'Anti-Theism' As Motive In N.C. Killings [View all] rug Feb 2015 OP

Maybe but maybe he's a undiagnosed sociopath. TexasProgresive Feb 2015 #1

"some experts see a new extremism developing among some atheists" PSPS Feb 2015 #2

You don't have to buy it. bvf Feb 2015 #3

Atheists have the longest history of discrimination of any minority. Panich52 Feb 2015 #4

"Religionists would like nothing better than to paint the 'godless heathens' cbayer Feb 2015 #12

While I agree that atheists are hated and discriminated against haikugal Feb 2015 #88

He makes it pretty clear that he is talking about a small, fringe group. cbayer Feb 2015 #11

I suspect a bit of George Zimmerman Fumesucker Feb 2015 #5

Yes! haikugal Feb 2015 #89

So rug edhopper Feb 2015 #6

What part of his definition of anti-theist do you disagree with? cbayer Feb 2015 #8

The part that it's a new identity edhopper Feb 2015 #9

I think he is talking specifically about identifying with the term, cbayer Feb 2015 #10

Aslan loves to criticize edhopper Feb 2015 #13

I think he is highly critical of anti-theists, as am I. cbayer Feb 2015 #14

I can accept that distinction edhopper Feb 2015 #16

I agree that he is an opportunist and he is certainly not alone in that space. cbayer Feb 2015 #19

I can count on one hand the number of posters here who are simply atheists. rug Feb 2015 #29

But it ain't new edhopper Feb 2015 #31

Assholery is not new. Its latest costume, which Aslan describes is somewhat new. rug Feb 2015 #32

You know edhopper Feb 2015 #35

Accept it or not. I don't accept your - and their - delineation of who's gullible. rug Feb 2015 #37

I don't see extremism among anti-atheists is general. cbayer Feb 2015 #7

You're edhopper Feb 2015 #15

I'm not assuming that at all and never have. cbayer Feb 2015 #17

So what does this mean edhopper Feb 2015 #18

I have said that whether this particular incident was fueled in part cbayer Feb 2015 #20

But you thought that was true edhopper Feb 2015 #21

I think I am not being clear. cbayer Feb 2015 #22

Do you think edhopper Feb 2015 #23

I don't think it's a contest. It's coming from both groups cbayer Feb 2015 #24

I said edhopper Feb 2015 #25

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I do think edhopper Feb 2015 #30

Irredeemable? Now there is an interesting word. cbayer Feb 2015 #33

Not Muslims edhopper Feb 2015 #36

It's more than just snarky and cheeky. cbayer Feb 2015 #38

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Irredeemable wasn't my word edhopper Feb 2015 #41

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In response to you using it. edhopper Feb 2015 #46

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You never have to re-examine yourself� ever. cbayer Feb 2015 #28

I examine myself and my life on an ongoing bases edhopper Feb 2015 #40

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Could you point me to some of what they have said edhopper Feb 2015 #44

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I agree with Maher's firs statement edhopper Feb 2015 #52

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Indonesia and Pakistan edhopper Feb 2015 #67

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If you remove the atheist adjective edhopper Feb 2015 #70

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I see that you found it threatening, so much so that you had to take a public stand cbayer Feb 2015 #45

It was a friggin joke edhopper Feb 2015 #47

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Well, in the context of the previous post, it's really not funny, but I will let it go. cbayer Feb 2015 #54

I said it was a joke edhopper Feb 2015 #55

But look at how it played out. cbayer Feb 2015 #58

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Yes the cries that atheists edhopper Feb 2015 #51

No one must do anything in response, but actively rejecting cbayer Feb 2015 #56

I think his anti-theism played a part in it. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #26

'Some see' just about anything. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #34

Angry, armed and white: Why Craig Stephen Hicks is the face of America�s violent extremism struggle4progress Feb 2015 #48

Chapel Hill suspect owned huge arsenal struggle4progress Feb 2015 #49

After the KKK/Nazis shot 5 in Greensboro in '79, US Attorney refused to purse Hate Crime charges leveymg Feb 2015 #57

I remember that. rug Feb 2015 #59

not being an atheist or an anti-theist guillaumeb Feb 2015 #63

It's simple. cbayer Feb 2015 #64

so anti-theists and militant religious fundamentalists guillaumeb Feb 2015 #65

No, not really, indeed its a rather ignorant comparison to make... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #66

true, but guillaumeb Feb 2015 #72

You don't believe in Darwinian evolution edhopper Feb 2015 #73

my post said that I do guillaumeb Feb 2015 #74

I know you accept Darwin edhopper Feb 2015 #76

very true guillaumeb Feb 2015 #80

I shy away from the word believe edhopper Feb 2015 #81

the problem with language guillaumeb Feb 2015 #82

Exactly edhopper Feb 2015 #83

bulls-eye guillaumeb Feb 2015 #84

I've had discussions edhopper Feb 2015 #85

that is what I like about this site. guillaumeb Feb 2015 #87

Good talking to you edhopper Feb 2015 #90

Anti-theism is not just nonbelief it is a position of active opposition to religion and Leontius Feb 2015 #86

I wouldn't go that far. cbayer Feb 2015 #68

well said. demosincebirth Feb 2015 #91

I most assuredly see them as two sides of a coin. TM99 Feb 2015 #75

And of course they call for the death edhopper Feb 2015 #77

When you take the position that they are all diseased and that "we" cbayer Feb 2015 #78

I'll let edhopper Feb 2015 #79

Gee...why am I reminded of the old tried and true catch phrase... NeoGreen Feb 2015 #92

I'm not sure where you have seen this, but in this case the "some" cbayer Feb 2015 #93