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TM99

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75. I most assuredly see them as two sides of a coin.

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 06:18 PM

Feb 2015

There is no philosophical identity without a religion to be opposed to. They define themselves by their own religious pasts, their fears and hatred of fundamentalist religious believers, and bluntly think about religion, believers, and god as much as a fundamentalist religious believer does.

This is an extremely small subset of non-believers, atheists, agnostics, whatever, but I do find that they are quite vocal. They will argue that because there is no book, priests, dogma, etc. that the comparison fails but I see it as being more of a psychological similarity as the attitudes, rigidity of thought processes, and an "us versus them" mentality is strikingly the same -- belief or no belief.

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Some See Extreme 'Anti-Theism' As Motive In N.C. Killings [View all] rug Feb 2015 OP

Maybe but maybe he's a undiagnosed sociopath. TexasProgresive Feb 2015 #1

"some experts see a new extremism developing among some atheists" PSPS Feb 2015 #2

You don't have to buy it. bvf Feb 2015 #3

Atheists have the longest history of discrimination of any minority. Panich52 Feb 2015 #4

"Religionists would like nothing better than to paint the 'godless heathens' cbayer Feb 2015 #12

While I agree that atheists are hated and discriminated against haikugal Feb 2015 #88

He makes it pretty clear that he is talking about a small, fringe group. cbayer Feb 2015 #11

I suspect a bit of George Zimmerman Fumesucker Feb 2015 #5

Yes! haikugal Feb 2015 #89

So rug edhopper Feb 2015 #6

What part of his definition of anti-theist do you disagree with? cbayer Feb 2015 #8

The part that it's a new identity edhopper Feb 2015 #9

I think he is talking specifically about identifying with the term, cbayer Feb 2015 #10

Aslan loves to criticize edhopper Feb 2015 #13

I think he is highly critical of anti-theists, as am I. cbayer Feb 2015 #14

I can accept that distinction edhopper Feb 2015 #16

I agree that he is an opportunist and he is certainly not alone in that space. cbayer Feb 2015 #19

I can count on one hand the number of posters here who are simply atheists. rug Feb 2015 #29

But it ain't new edhopper Feb 2015 #31

Assholery is not new. Its latest costume, which Aslan describes is somewhat new. rug Feb 2015 #32

You know edhopper Feb 2015 #35

Accept it or not. I don't accept your - and their - delineation of who's gullible. rug Feb 2015 #37

I don't see extremism among anti-atheists is general. cbayer Feb 2015 #7

You're edhopper Feb 2015 #15

I'm not assuming that at all and never have. cbayer Feb 2015 #17

So what does this mean edhopper Feb 2015 #18

I have said that whether this particular incident was fueled in part cbayer Feb 2015 #20

But you thought that was true edhopper Feb 2015 #21

I think I am not being clear. cbayer Feb 2015 #22

Do you think edhopper Feb 2015 #23

I don't think it's a contest. It's coming from both groups cbayer Feb 2015 #24

I said edhopper Feb 2015 #25

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I do think edhopper Feb 2015 #30

Irredeemable? Now there is an interesting word. cbayer Feb 2015 #33

Not Muslims edhopper Feb 2015 #36

It's more than just snarky and cheeky. cbayer Feb 2015 #38

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Irredeemable wasn't my word edhopper Feb 2015 #41

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In response to you using it. edhopper Feb 2015 #46

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You never have to re-examine yourself� ever. cbayer Feb 2015 #28

I examine myself and my life on an ongoing bases edhopper Feb 2015 #40

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Could you point me to some of what they have said edhopper Feb 2015 #44

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I agree with Maher's firs statement edhopper Feb 2015 #52

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Indonesia and Pakistan edhopper Feb 2015 #67

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If you remove the atheist adjective edhopper Feb 2015 #70

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I see that you found it threatening, so much so that you had to take a public stand cbayer Feb 2015 #45

It was a friggin joke edhopper Feb 2015 #47

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Well, in the context of the previous post, it's really not funny, but I will let it go. cbayer Feb 2015 #54

I said it was a joke edhopper Feb 2015 #55

But look at how it played out. cbayer Feb 2015 #58

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Yes the cries that atheists edhopper Feb 2015 #51

No one must do anything in response, but actively rejecting cbayer Feb 2015 #56

I think his anti-theism played a part in it. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #26

'Some see' just about anything. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #34

Angry, armed and white: Why Craig Stephen Hicks is the face of America�s violent extremism struggle4progress Feb 2015 #48

Chapel Hill suspect owned huge arsenal struggle4progress Feb 2015 #49

After the KKK/Nazis shot 5 in Greensboro in '79, US Attorney refused to purse Hate Crime charges leveymg Feb 2015 #57

I remember that. rug Feb 2015 #59

not being an atheist or an anti-theist guillaumeb Feb 2015 #63

It's simple. cbayer Feb 2015 #64

so anti-theists and militant religious fundamentalists guillaumeb Feb 2015 #65

No, not really, indeed its a rather ignorant comparison to make... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #66

true, but guillaumeb Feb 2015 #72

You don't believe in Darwinian evolution edhopper Feb 2015 #73

my post said that I do guillaumeb Feb 2015 #74

I know you accept Darwin edhopper Feb 2015 #76

very true guillaumeb Feb 2015 #80

I shy away from the word believe edhopper Feb 2015 #81

the problem with language guillaumeb Feb 2015 #82

Exactly edhopper Feb 2015 #83

bulls-eye guillaumeb Feb 2015 #84

I've had discussions edhopper Feb 2015 #85

that is what I like about this site. guillaumeb Feb 2015 #87

Good talking to you edhopper Feb 2015 #90

Anti-theism is not just nonbelief it is a position of active opposition to religion and Leontius Feb 2015 #86

I wouldn't go that far. cbayer Feb 2015 #68

well said. demosincebirth Feb 2015 #91

I most assuredly see them as two sides of a coin. TM99 Feb 2015 #75

And of course they call for the death edhopper Feb 2015 #77

When you take the position that they are all diseased and that "we" cbayer Feb 2015 #78

I'll let edhopper Feb 2015 #79

Gee...why am I reminded of the old tried and true catch phrase... NeoGreen Feb 2015 #92

I'm not sure where you have seen this, but in this case the "some" cbayer Feb 2015 #93