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Arugula Latte

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37. No, it was not utterly destroyed.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:59 PM
Feb 2015
http://www.skeptical-science.com/science/internet-damage-religious-beliefs/

Generally people live inside bubbles, self-selected spheres of influence. We naturally gravitate towards those who hold the same beliefs and that becomes our social circle and is where our ideas are confirmed as true by those around us, and that in turn naturally leads us to accept this as further confirmation. However, exposing ourselves to new different ideas, and criticism of the ideas we embrace, will potentially burst such bubbles and change us – going to university does exact that and so that is why an increase in the number of people going to university will indeed yield a measurable effect. To not find that correlation would be a huge surprise. In exactly the same way, having access to the Internet has a similar effect, except it happens on a far larger scale. We are suddenly exposed to information sources that are critical of religious beliefs that do not really withstand critical analysis and so that will also clearly lead to people drawing far more rational, better, non-religious conclusions.

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I want my government to have nothing to do with the Bible or the Qur'an CanonRay Feb 2015 #1
Refreshing post. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #15
Yes but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #54
No? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #67
As stated, Greatest I am Feb 2015 #75
a quibble over method guillaumeb Feb 2015 #79
That is the saddest hand-wave I have ever seen. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #87
I hear you but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #53
And beating children, the only element of society that it seems socially acceptable to hit. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #88
How about a nice book burning? Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #2
That would be the best. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #55
I'd be fine if we could just get rid of the notion that either book was divinely inspired. trotsky Feb 2015 #3
With the emphasis on "men" CanonRay Feb 2015 #4
Oh absolutely. trotsky Feb 2015 #5
Indeed. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #56
So basically you want the goverment to force us to change our holy books. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #6
Yes but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #57
perhaps there is a "good" facism being proposed here? guillaumeb Feb 2015 #80
No there is no good facism and the scriptures will not be changed. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #92
governments should not be messing with religion or religious texts. period. unblock Feb 2015 #7
Simplistic are the Greatest I am Feb 2015 #58
Religion is not the reason for extremism. cheyanne Feb 2015 #8
Religion does help enable extremism though. trotsky Feb 2015 #9
Islam means "peace". guillaumeb Feb 2015 #81
And conserve means treasure or protect. trotsky Mar 2015 #93
glad to. guillaumeb Mar 2015 #94
OK, you still haven't addressed what I said. trotsky Mar 2015 #95
which statement that you made here are you referring to? guillaumeb Mar 2015 #96
Let's start with the question I asked in post #9, that you didn't answer: trotsky Mar 2015 #97
Thank you guillaumeb Mar 2015 #98
cheyanne made this claim: "Neither Christianity or Islam are violent religions" trotsky Mar 2015 #99
by the words of the founders guillaumeb Mar 2015 #100
We aren't to the point of me needing to point out specific passages. Right now, that's your task. trotsky Mar 2015 #101
I have answered your post with specifics guillaumeb Mar 2015 #102
You seem to have me confused with someone else. trotsky Mar 2015 #103
if a religion is founded on a principle guillaumeb Mar 2015 #104
You are missing the key point. trotsky Mar 2015 #105
I agree but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #59
So you are calling for a fatwa against TM99 Feb 2015 #10
He lost me at "our real enemy are." okasha Feb 2015 #13
Careful. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #14
*IS* that poster an atheist? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #16
Original Poster is a Gnostic x-tian (nt) LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #19
No they are not. TM99 Feb 2015 #20
I remember you saying something about literalism a while back. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #21
You may have done that, but that does not change that he is a Gnostic X-tian LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #22
I really don't care. TM99 Feb 2015 #23
You might not care but others do. LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #24
I am sorry. TM99 Feb 2015 #27
Yes I have considered it LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #28
As usual, you have veered off into TM99 Feb 2015 #29
I am glad to see the tone-nannies and label police out in full force... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #45
Not caring doesn't make you correct. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #25
Sounds like NTS fallacy. n/t Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #43
Except it is not. TM99 Feb 2015 #47
To a certain extent, you are correct, however, without delving into their beliefs more deeply... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #48
Fair enough TM99 Feb 2015 #49
It gets worse. okasha Feb 2015 #50
That is completely unacceptable. TM99 Feb 2015 #52
Not correct. Please do not lie. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #60
Perhaps you're unaware that your journal is accessible by other members. okasha Feb 2015 #66
I am. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #74
Suppose you acknowledge what you wrote okasha Feb 2015 #90
"...New Atheism Islamophobia..." Uhm, excuse me? Since when is Islamophobia an exclusively... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #69
Never said it was exclusive to atheism. TM99 Feb 2015 #70
Sam Harris, I feel, has fell off the rails, similar to Christopher Hitchens and his... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #71
We are in agreement here so I don't really understand your problem. TM99 Feb 2015 #72
nice post guillaumeb Feb 2015 #82
To me, TM99 Feb 2015 #89
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" pinto Feb 2015 #11
Bingo. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #17
Your constitution is garbage Greatest I am Feb 2015 #61
What is your suggestion as a replacement to our Constitution? Another option? pinto Feb 2015 #68
Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #76
No edhopper Feb 2015 #12
For evil Greatest I am Feb 2015 #62
Sorry edhopper Feb 2015 #64
The only thing government should 'do' to religion is AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #18
It's up to thinking individuals, not governments, to point out that these religions are Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #26
Yes, because people respond so well to being told what they cbayer Feb 2015 #31
Hey, it's fine for Christians go door to door to spread the "Good News," right? Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #33
No, I don't think it's fine at all. What led you to believe that? cbayer Feb 2015 #34
Links: Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #35
Thanks. The first article was utterly destroyed shortly after it's cbayer Feb 2015 #36
No, it was not utterly destroyed. Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #37
And the young people of the UK are far ahead of our young people: Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #38
"Far ahead" belies a prejudice that you just can't escape. cbayer Feb 2015 #40
LOL good response. trotsky Feb 2015 #39
Another completely biased source. cbayer Feb 2015 #41
I don't like proselytizing of any kind, AlbertCat Feb 2015 #42
What kind of proselytizing do you think I do? cbayer Feb 2015 #44
LOLOLOL trotsky Feb 2015 #46
you certainly are proselytizing guillaumeb Feb 2015 #84
Lol. I like to think of it as encouraging as opposed to proselytizing, cbayer Feb 2015 #85
So you want the Noble Lie of religion to continue. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #63
Wait, me? Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #73
No. For you. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #77
I think if the government were to get involved it would backfire. Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #91
Oh, those are just books, neither all good nor all evil Warpy Feb 2015 #30
Very well said. Its the individuals, not the books. cbayer Feb 2015 #32
I hear you but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #65
Why not just discard them and move on? It seems much easier and sensible. arcane1 Feb 2015 #51
No argument but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #78
I just try to avoid being an asshole. It works wonders. arcane1 Feb 2015 #86
good to know that believers are all dependent guillaumeb Feb 2015 #83
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