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AlbertCat

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42. I don't like proselytizing of any kind,

Reply to cbayer (Reply #34)

Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:03 PM

Feb 2015

Guffaw!

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Jihadists must die, --- but our real enemy are the Qur�an and Bible. [View all] Greatest I am Feb 2015 OP

I want my government to have nothing to do with the Bible or the Qur'an CanonRay Feb 2015 #1

Refreshing post. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #15

Yes but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #54

No? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #67

As stated, Greatest I am Feb 2015 #75

a quibble over method guillaumeb Feb 2015 #79

That is the saddest hand-wave I have ever seen. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #87

I hear you but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #53

And beating children, the only element of society that it seems socially acceptable to hit. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #88

How about a nice book burning? Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #2

That would be the best. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #55

I'd be fine if we could just get rid of the notion that either book was divinely inspired. trotsky Feb 2015 #3

With the emphasis on "men" CanonRay Feb 2015 #4

Oh absolutely. trotsky Feb 2015 #5

Indeed. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #56

So basically you want the goverment to force us to change our holy books. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #6

Yes but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #57

perhaps there is a "good" facism being proposed here? guillaumeb Feb 2015 #80

No there is no good facism and the scriptures will not be changed. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #92

governments should not be messing with religion or religious texts. period. unblock Feb 2015 #7

Simplistic are the Greatest I am Feb 2015 #58

Religion is not the reason for extremism. cheyanne Feb 2015 #8

Religion does help enable extremism though. trotsky Feb 2015 #9

Islam means "peace". guillaumeb Feb 2015 #81

And conserve means treasure or protect. trotsky Mar 2015 #93

glad to. guillaumeb Mar 2015 #94

OK, you still haven't addressed what I said. trotsky Mar 2015 #95

which statement that you made here are you referring to? guillaumeb Mar 2015 #96

Let's start with the question I asked in post #9, that you didn't answer: trotsky Mar 2015 #97

Thank you guillaumeb Mar 2015 #98

cheyanne made this claim: "Neither Christianity or Islam are violent religions" trotsky Mar 2015 #99

by the words of the founders guillaumeb Mar 2015 #100

We aren't to the point of me needing to point out specific passages. Right now, that's your task. trotsky Mar 2015 #101

I have answered your post with specifics guillaumeb Mar 2015 #102

You seem to have me confused with someone else. trotsky Mar 2015 #103

if a religion is founded on a principle guillaumeb Mar 2015 #104

You are missing the key point. trotsky Mar 2015 #105

I agree but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #59

So you are calling for a fatwa against TM99 Feb 2015 #10

He lost me at "our real enemy are." okasha Feb 2015 #13

Careful. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #14

*IS* that poster an atheist? AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #16

Original Poster is a Gnostic x-tian (nt) LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #19

No they are not. TM99 Feb 2015 #20

I remember you saying something about literalism a while back. Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #21

You may have done that, but that does not change that he is a Gnostic X-tian LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #22

I really don't care. TM99 Feb 2015 #23

You might not care but others do. LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #24

I am sorry. TM99 Feb 2015 #27

Yes I have considered it LostOne4Ever Feb 2015 #28

As usual, you have veered off into TM99 Feb 2015 #29

I am glad to see the tone-nannies and label police out in full force... Act_of_Reparation Feb 2015 #45

Not caring doesn't make you correct. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #25

Sounds like NTS fallacy. n/t Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #43

Except it is not. TM99 Feb 2015 #47

To a certain extent, you are correct, however, without delving into their beliefs more deeply... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #48

Fair enough TM99 Feb 2015 #49

It gets worse. okasha Feb 2015 #50

That is completely unacceptable. TM99 Feb 2015 #52

Not correct. Please do not lie. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #60

Perhaps you're unaware that your journal is accessible by other members. okasha Feb 2015 #66

I am. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #74

Suppose you acknowledge what you wrote okasha Feb 2015 #90

"...New Atheism Islamophobia..." Uhm, excuse me? Since when is Islamophobia an exclusively... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #69

Never said it was exclusive to atheism. TM99 Feb 2015 #70

Sam Harris, I feel, has fell off the rails, similar to Christopher Hitchens and his... Humanist_Activist Feb 2015 #71

We are in agreement here so I don't really understand your problem. TM99 Feb 2015 #72

nice post guillaumeb Feb 2015 #82

To me, TM99 Feb 2015 #89

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" pinto Feb 2015 #11

Bingo. AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #17

Your constitution is garbage Greatest I am Feb 2015 #61

What is your suggestion as a replacement to our Constitution? Another option? pinto Feb 2015 #68

Post removed Post removed Feb 2015 #76

No edhopper Feb 2015 #12

For evil Greatest I am Feb 2015 #62

Sorry edhopper Feb 2015 #64

The only thing government should 'do' to religion is AtheistCrusader Feb 2015 #18

It's up to thinking individuals, not governments, to point out that these religions are Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #26

Yes, because people respond so well to being told what they cbayer Feb 2015 #31

Hey, it's fine for Christians go door to door to spread the "Good News," right? Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #33

No, I don't think it's fine at all. What led you to believe that? cbayer Feb 2015 #34

Links: Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #35

Thanks. The first article was utterly destroyed shortly after it's cbayer Feb 2015 #36

No, it was not utterly destroyed. Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #37

And the young people of the UK are far ahead of our young people: Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #38

"Far ahead" belies a prejudice that you just can't escape. cbayer Feb 2015 #40

LOL good response. trotsky Feb 2015 #39

Another completely biased source. cbayer Feb 2015 #41

I don't like proselytizing of any kind, AlbertCat Feb 2015 #42

What kind of proselytizing do you think I do? cbayer Feb 2015 #44

LOLOLOL trotsky Feb 2015 #46

you certainly are proselytizing guillaumeb Feb 2015 #84

Lol. I like to think of it as encouraging as opposed to proselytizing, cbayer Feb 2015 #85

So you want the Noble Lie of religion to continue. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #63

Wait, me? Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #73

No. For you. Greatest I am Feb 2015 #77

I think if the government were to get involved it would backfire. Arugula Latte Feb 2015 #91

Oh, those are just books, neither all good nor all evil Warpy Feb 2015 #30

Very well said. Its the individuals, not the books. cbayer Feb 2015 #32

I hear you but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #65

Why not just discard them and move on? It seems much easier and sensible. arcane1 Feb 2015 #51

No argument but Greatest I am Feb 2015 #78

I just try to avoid being an asshole. It works wonders. arcane1 Feb 2015 #86

good to know that believers are all dependent guillaumeb Feb 2015 #83