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97. Perhaps, but the second panel recognizes that this would have damned humanity,

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Sat Apr 7, 2012, 06:39 PM

Apr 2012

so the "point" is lost.

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You have to admit Easter IS rather confusing, let me see if I have this right. [View all] cleanhippie Apr 2012 OP

Easter is celebrating the day Jesus came out of his tomb. Bosso 63 Apr 2012 #1

You know I hate to go all "Oh c'mon" on y'all but nolabear Apr 2012 #2

I agree with you, Nolabear roguevalley Apr 2012 #34

Oh, shut up. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #3

I don't believe anybody said you couldn't believe what you want. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #6

So then it's OK to ridicule atheists if I consider their POV to be ridiculous? humblebum Apr 2012 #127

LOL...yeah! Shut up! Iggo Apr 2012 #7

I will shut up just as soon as you shut up first. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #8

Why is it that I doubt that? nt humblebum Apr 2012 #133

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Thanks for the poutrage. TahitiNut Apr 2012 #33

Saying What You Believe Is Funny As Hell, Sir, Is Not Preventing You From Believing It The Magistrate Apr 2012 #126

The Enlightenment was not about accepting all beliefs RainDog Apr 2012 #142

+1. n/t Bolo Boffin Apr 2012 #143

Funny comic; made me laugh. Bette Noir Apr 2012 #4

Actually, many of the Christian and Pagan traditions are very closely linked.... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2012 #11

Yes, indeed. tavalon Apr 2012 #113

Not odd at all, it gives people of different beliefe systems reason to celebrate. 1620rock Apr 2012 #5

read a blurb few weeks ago saying the 'resurrection' is based on the shroud of turin pasto76 Apr 2012 #9

The Shroud has never been explained by "modern science" mistertrickster Apr 2012 #10

And nothing has ever been explained by "religion" cleanhippie Apr 2012 #12

When the fool hears of the Tao, mistertrickster Apr 2012 #14

I guess we are in agreement, then. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #16

Yup, you win. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #18

I didn't realize it was a contest. I was merely looking for agreement or disagreement cleanhippie Apr 2012 #75

Understood? Hardly... elias7 Apr 2012 #108

Incoherent? Assuredly... cleanhippie Apr 2012 #119

Not really elias7 Apr 2012 #135

No, that would be spirituality tavalon Apr 2012 #114

Huh? cleanhippie Apr 2012 #120

Actually, you got that a bit wrong. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #13

Since you assumed so many things I didn't mean and don't believe mistertrickster Apr 2012 #15

I assumed nothing. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #19

Thank you for magnificent victory dance mistertrickster Apr 2012 #21

Ummm, wtf? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #23

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Again, you got it completely wrong. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #28

God of the gaps (along with the NTS counter-argument) is stale and not a good weapon cbayer Apr 2012 #29

So your argument is that every time science explains something that was previously explained by... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #41

Excellent points nt. Leontius Apr 2012 #44

Wow. That was sad. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #57

Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #30

I made no such assumption. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #43

No, he didn't. mr blur Apr 2012 #148

nor can we explain how Incan and Mayan stones can be so perfectly ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2012 #26

Nope. That was ancient aliens. Iggo Apr 2012 #68

OMG, the hair guy, I LOVE THE HAIR GUY!!! Marrah_G Apr 2012 #141

The Shroud is a 14th century painting skepticscott Apr 2012 #56

You have to admit that the concept of a moveable death day does give one pause.... truth2power Apr 2012 #17

Yeah. Igel Apr 2012 #132

Jews killed Christ and Muslims are terrorists . . . mistertrickster Apr 2012 #20

Ahhh, I see. Persecution complex at work here. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #24

Let me add a few more of those stale arguments that are in the handbook. cbayer Apr 2012 #31

Right, I didn't post a comic showing atheists BURNING IN HELL, did I? mistertrickster Apr 2012 #32

Because it's the cool thing to do Leontius Apr 2012 #35

Yup, agreed. mistertrickster Apr 2012 #36

Welcome to the snakepit Leontius Apr 2012 #42

Believing in irrational things does tend to call into question ones rationality. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #47

Agree that believing in irrational things (like one has the answer and everyone who does not cbayer Apr 2012 #49

Well said. cordelia Apr 2012 #51

Is it OK to call a group of creationists skepticscott Apr 2012 #63

+1 darkstar3 Apr 2012 #65

Calling issues and faith into question is only acceptably done in... SamG Apr 2012 #64

Indeed, somebody saying they have the answer and everyone who does not agree... eqfan592 Apr 2012 #106

Because there are some very hurt and angry people here who can not help themselves. cbayer Apr 2012 #37

Wise words, wise indeed. Shalom to all. nt mistertrickster Apr 2012 #38

Shalom to you mistertrickster. cbayer Apr 2012 #39

If I were a Christian, or a Jew, or a Muslim, or of any faith, SamG Apr 2012 #66

You are right. cbayer Apr 2012 #81

Not ridicule, teasing. You stole our holiday. You didn't even try to rename it much. Ostara = Easter tavalon Apr 2012 #116

You could have posted one, and we might have thought it funny! eqfan592 Apr 2012 #121

Actually, in this particular instance, I do believe it is being applied correctly. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #46

Noting that Christians are being baited and ridiculed in this group is not a persecution complex. cbayer Apr 2012 #48

Now be honest and also acknowledge skepticscott Apr 2012 #60

No, it wouldn't be. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #107

Woah, grow a humor bone tavalon Apr 2012 #115

Not that confusing to me ajk2821 Apr 2012 #22

While you're at it, why don't you demean and ridicule Martin Luther King, Jr, mistertrickster Apr 2012 #25

One comic here has really put your back up. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #59

Since you have decided to spout off on "high holy days" Marrah_G Apr 2012 #146

Flamebait on Easter. No surprise nt LARED Apr 2012 #40

If you think this is the only flamebait posted lately, you're blind. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #61

Not flamebait - gentle teasing on Ostara. tavalon Apr 2012 #117

I've been mulling over Dawkin's assertion that "the basic theology of Christianity is barking mad" jimlup Apr 2012 #45

Freakin Hillarious Kalidurga Apr 2012 #50

That second panel shows this guy doesn't really understand what he's mocking. rug Apr 2012 #52

So you will, of course, explain it to us, what the REAL meaning of .. SamG Apr 2012 #58

I'll second that... darkstar3 Apr 2012 #62

It's not about displeasure and it's not about having to. rug Apr 2012 #67

You mean Jesus didn't die for our sins? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #69

You were Pentecostal, you can answer that. rug Apr 2012 #71

You're right, I was, and that's how I know you're wrong. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #73

Post the creed, not the nutshell. I'm not interested in your summary. rug Apr 2012 #76

So "for our salvation" has nothing to do with it? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #78

As a matter of fact no, it wasn't necessary. rug Apr 2012 #79

Wait, you're saying that "our salvation", in the creed, was NOT necessary? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #80

Returning to the cartoon you're defending, the Crucifixion was not necessary. rug Apr 2012 #82

And where in the Bible, the Catechism, or any mainstream church teachings do you find that? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #84

Your ignorance is showing. rug Apr 2012 #87

Not true on two counts. The only ignorance here is yours on the topic of "salvation". darkstar3 Apr 2012 #88

I see. You, like the cartoon, believe it was necessary for God, as opposed to, for humanity, to die. rug Apr 2012 #89

And you are avoiding the question. Let's step back and present it properly. What is salvation? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #93

The question was, Did the second panel present an accurate target for mocking? rug Apr 2012 #95

And it is mocking the concept of salvation. That's why you won't talk about it. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #98

Don't forget the lesson skepticscott Apr 2012 #104

Hadn't heard it put that way before. Apropos. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #105

It has no concept of the concept of salvation. rug Apr 2012 #109

LOL. Show me you know what "salvation" means, as a definition and a concept, darkstar3 Apr 2012 #110

Since your grasp of this cartoon is better than your grasp of the Nicene Creed, the effort is futile rug Apr 2012 #111

Here's what you need to know: trotsky Apr 2012 #139

That is a contradictory position. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #140

And that's new for rug? trotsky Apr 2012 #144

Rug does have a point. Mariana Apr 2012 #96

Perhaps, but the second panel recognizes that this would have damned humanity, darkstar3 Apr 2012 #97

Please stop baiting, either give an answer to the question or SamG Apr 2012 #74

If I were baiting, I'd simply cut and paste your post. rug Apr 2012 #77

So your posts are just avoidance and insult, instead. SamG Apr 2012 #83

Not quite. I didn't throw in "mumbo jumbo". rug Apr 2012 #86

You would prefer abracadabra ? SamG Apr 2012 #90

I prefer non-racist terms. rug Apr 2012 #91

In other words, the ORIGIN of the term, dated long before skepticscott Apr 2012 #122

You have a point. One parent was named only Mumbo, the other only Jumbo. rug Apr 2012 #123

Wow, you managed to completely ignore skepticscott Apr 2012 #124

Besides your dismissiveness of racist terms, you have a dismissiveness toward psychiatric patients. rug Apr 2012 #125

Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory? muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #128

Read on. rug Apr 2012 #129

But this shows the cartoon quote to be a valid part of Christian discussion muriel_volestrangler Apr 2012 #130

Read back. rug Apr 2012 #131

Could we receive forgiveness for our sins if Jesus had not been crucified? n/t trotsky Apr 2012 #145

Ask Dawkins. rug Apr 2012 #147

I'm asking you. trotsky Apr 2012 #149

I'm telling you. rug Apr 2012 #150

Dawkins cannot possibly understand your church's particular theology better than you. trotsky Apr 2012 #151

Stepping over a pile of shit, rather than walking through it, is not fear. rug Apr 2012 #152

OK, so I asked him. He was up really early over in the UK and I've got his direct phone number. trotsky Apr 2012 #153

Why do you ask disingenuous questions? rug Apr 2012 #154

The question was amazingly straightforward. Your tapdancing, not so much. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #155

Straightforward and disingenuous. rug Apr 2012 #156

What's disingenuous about it? trotsky Apr 2012 #157

See #156. rug Apr 2012 #158

That doesn't answer my question OR why you think it is disingenuous. trotsky Apr 2012 #159

Why won't you just say it's a sincere question? rug Apr 2012 #161

Why are you assuming it's not? trotsky Apr 2012 #163

It is not an assumption; it's a conclusion drawn from evidence. rug Apr 2012 #165

Why do you find it so hard to just answer? trotsky Apr 2012 #167

Game over. The question's been answered. rug Apr 2012 #168

Wow, a dodge and an insult all wrapped into one. eqfan592 Apr 2012 #169

The belief that mocking will help you get along with someone is a religious belief that baffles me saras Apr 2012 #53

Just why would you place such limits upon who you can "get along with"? SamG Apr 2012 #55

No, fellow Muslim cartoon character, you do not ... SamG Apr 2012 #54

This has been shown as not a reliable bit of information on another thread. Leontius Apr 2012 #70

To, which, of course, you provide no link skepticscott Apr 2012 #72

As far as religious belief goes, links are not needed. SamG Apr 2012 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author Leontius Apr 2012 #92

Here Leontius Apr 2012 #94

Well, that was a failure to substantiate on quite a level. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #99

I found post #32 in that thread quite good at pointing out the bs Leontius Apr 2012 #100

You realize you linked to this thread, right? darkstar3 Apr 2012 #101

The link works fine for me Leontius Apr 2012 #102

Well now, that sounds like a bug. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #103

You mean the post from the banned disruptor? trotsky Apr 2012 #160

Muriel Volestrangler Is a banned disruptor? I did not know that, what was the Leontius Apr 2012 #162

I clicked on your link and post #32 is not from muriel? trotsky Apr 2012 #164

Thank you. We Pagans like to be recognized on this holy day as well tavalon Apr 2012 #118

Confused the hell out of me when I was a kid. smokey nj Apr 2012 #136

But I bet you were a smart kid and kept your mouth shut tavalon Apr 2012 #137

Peeps were, and still are, my favorite. smokey nj Apr 2012 #138

Tee hee tavalon Apr 2012 #112

Sex and Omelets :) Marrah_G Apr 2012 #166