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cbayer

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12. What is the basic logical truth?

Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:15 PM

Apr 2015

There are multiple paths that go to the same place.

I don't like heights and am inspired by being by the water.

The water holds no appeal to you and your inspiration comes from the mountains.

I can say that path a is required for me to get there. You can say that path b is required for you to get there.

Let's look at it this way. Let's say I am gay and you are straight. We both can be sexually satisfied. That is only going to happen for me if I am with a same sex partner. It is necessary. Quite the opposite is true for you.

There are multiple options and one of them is necessary for each of us to achieve said result. Period. Full Stop.

For some people nothing else can do for them what religion does.

The statement is not wrong, we just disagree.

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"What good is religion, anyway?" (by Domyo Burk, a Zen priest) [View all] Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 OP

http://oldcatman-xxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/article-2434992-1851854800000578-948_634x436.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #1

Entire argument rests on the (incorrect) premise... gcomeau Apr 2015 #2

Except he never says that there aren't other means of achieving this. cbayer Apr 2015 #3

You should really direct your criticism at the author. trotsky Apr 2015 #5

Sigh. gcomeau Apr 2015 #6

Exactly. He said some people need it and some people don't. cbayer Apr 2015 #7

And if he wasn't relying on the premise... gcomeau Apr 2015 #9

See, that's not the way I read it at all. cbayer Apr 2015 #10

It's a basic logical truth. gcomeau Apr 2015 #11

What is the basic logical truth? cbayer Apr 2015 #12

That. Thing. I. Said. gcomeau Apr 2015 #13

And that is exactly my point. cbayer Apr 2015 #14

And it was exactly my point first. gcomeau Apr 2015 #16

So are you making the claim that there are other options available to him that would work for him? cbayer Apr 2015 #17

It's fairly easy to know that. gcomeau Apr 2015 #18

So the only path you think is reasonable is the one that works for you? cbayer Apr 2015 #19

I said nothing of the kind. gcomeau Apr 2015 #20

And atheism wouldn't work for him. cbayer Apr 2015 #21

Of course it wouldn't. gcomeau Apr 2015 #22

Let me know when DU has a group devoted to not stamp collecting and when there are numerous cbayer Apr 2015 #23

Let me know... gcomeau Apr 2015 #24

Oh, but there is. They seem to enjoy complaining about stamps. rug Apr 2015 #25

Ah, my eyes!!! Make it stop. cbayer Apr 2015 #26

I had heard about these but I didn't believe it until I just saw it. rug Apr 2015 #27

The stamp collecting meme lost it's luster quite a bit ago. cbayer Apr 2015 #28

It doesn't stick anymore. rug Apr 2015 #29

It also ignores the data points of those who... trotsky Apr 2015 #4

Oh, wait, except that's not what he said. rug Apr 2015 #8

And you've responded with a false dichotomy. Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 #30

I have yet to encounter a religion that isn't. gcomeau Apr 2015 #36

Religion has been good for me. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #15

This is one of those arguments that frightens me, are religious people this...deranged? Humanist_Activist Apr 2015 #31

Were you involved with religion at one point? Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 #32

I was raised Catholic, and I will give them credit where its due... Humanist_Activist Apr 2015 #33

Thank you for sharing that. Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 #34

You have to understand that a lot of things occured concurrently that caused my doubt, and... Humanist_Activist Apr 2015 #35