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Humanist_Activist

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33. I was raised Catholic, and I will give them credit where its due...
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 10:02 PM
Apr 2015

within limits, they think many people's conscience is formed through reason rather than revelation, though some call it "right reason" and still attribute it to their God.

I was Baptized, went through First Communion, and was even Confirmed, I was, especially as a teenager, a rather staunch Catholic, to my shame. Actually, funnily enough, this disturbed my mother, apparently, I went through PSR, our local, unique version of CCD. I did attend a Catholic School for few years in middle school, all the rest was in public schools with PSR until Confirmation.

Throughout that time, I was, as I said, a staunch Catholic, pro-life, anti-contraceptive, I don't believe same sex marriage even registered to me until I was much older, I was 14 when DADT was debated, and I do remember thinking that was unfair, and I didn't understand the big deal, but our Parish wasn't outspoken about LGBT issues. I was seriously considering joining seminary, but my mom nixed that idea, she wanted me to have kids.

The first real crack in my armor of faith was meeting my best friend in high school, an Indian exchange student, Amar. He was a staunch Hindu, even always brought in lunch because our school apparently puts beef in everything, which, in fairness, it does. Still feel bad about enjoying a pepperoni pizza while he munched on a ham and cheese sandwich.

I didn't try to convert him nor him me, but what I did observe was someone who believed in his incorrect religion just as much as I believed in my correct religion. That really made me doubt why my religion is the correct one in the first place. Things developed from there.

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Entire argument rests on the (incorrect) premise... gcomeau Apr 2015 #2
Except he never says that there aren't other means of achieving this. cbayer Apr 2015 #3
You should really direct your criticism at the author. trotsky Apr 2015 #5
Sigh. gcomeau Apr 2015 #6
Exactly. He said some people need it and some people don't. cbayer Apr 2015 #7
And if he wasn't relying on the premise... gcomeau Apr 2015 #9
See, that's not the way I read it at all. cbayer Apr 2015 #10
It's a basic logical truth. gcomeau Apr 2015 #11
What is the basic logical truth? cbayer Apr 2015 #12
That. Thing. I. Said. gcomeau Apr 2015 #13
And that is exactly my point. cbayer Apr 2015 #14
And it was exactly my point first. gcomeau Apr 2015 #16
So are you making the claim that there are other options available to him that would work for him? cbayer Apr 2015 #17
It's fairly easy to know that. gcomeau Apr 2015 #18
So the only path you think is reasonable is the one that works for you? cbayer Apr 2015 #19
I said nothing of the kind. gcomeau Apr 2015 #20
And atheism wouldn't work for him. cbayer Apr 2015 #21
Of course it wouldn't. gcomeau Apr 2015 #22
Let me know when DU has a group devoted to not stamp collecting and when there are numerous cbayer Apr 2015 #23
Let me know... gcomeau Apr 2015 #24
Oh, but there is. They seem to enjoy complaining about stamps. rug Apr 2015 #25
Ah, my eyes!!! Make it stop. cbayer Apr 2015 #26
I had heard about these but I didn't believe it until I just saw it. rug Apr 2015 #27
The stamp collecting meme lost it's luster quite a bit ago. cbayer Apr 2015 #28
It doesn't stick anymore. rug Apr 2015 #29
It also ignores the data points of those who... trotsky Apr 2015 #4
Oh, wait, except that's not what he said. rug Apr 2015 #8
And you've responded with a false dichotomy. Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 #30
I have yet to encounter a religion that isn't. gcomeau Apr 2015 #36
Religion has been good for me. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #15
This is one of those arguments that frightens me, are religious people this...deranged? Humanist_Activist Apr 2015 #31
Were you involved with religion at one point? Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 #32
I was raised Catholic, and I will give them credit where its due... Humanist_Activist Apr 2015 #33
Thank you for sharing that. Htom Sirveaux Apr 2015 #34
You have to understand that a lot of things occured concurrently that caused my doubt, and... Humanist_Activist Apr 2015 #35
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