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cbayer

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110. I'm not a believer so I have nothing to reconcile at all.

Wed Apr 22, 2015, 05:47 PM

Apr 2015

However, I was raised in the church and my father is a minister. I was raised to question everything and taught that it was important to embrace the parts that made sense and reject the parts that didn't.

There was no message about infallibility or any teaching about literalism. People may think that the bible is the word of god, but I think it was written by humans and reflect the politics and culture of the time. There are parts I like and parts I don't.

I appreciate your civility and honest approach. No need to apologize at all.

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Derogatory words for "atheist" [View all] edhopper Apr 2015 OP

Other than heathen I can't think of one. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #1

It's just an interesting observation edhopper Apr 2015 #2

Infidel? Cartoonist Apr 2015 #4

Again edhopper Apr 2015 #6

Like rurallib says Cartoonist Apr 2015 #7

There you go. TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #8

pagan or unbeliever come to mind rurallib Apr 2015 #3

The only one I've seen is "faitheist". rug Apr 2015 #5

There's also "apologist." okasha Apr 2015 #21

That's right. And "accommodationist"! rug Apr 2015 #22

And "religionista," sometimes preceded by "rabid." okasha Apr 2015 #24

You find apologist offensive? LiberalAndProud Apr 2015 #68

I find it offensive okasha Apr 2015 #117

I agree with okasha. It is often used as a tool to attack non-believers cbayer Apr 2015 #122

There are lots of derogatory words used in these useless battles. cbayer Apr 2015 #9

+1 Chemisse Apr 2015 #84

"Rabid" as a modifer for atheist used to be popular but seems to have fallen out of fashion.. Fumesucker Apr 2015 #10

Heathen and Pagan don't really work TexasProgresive Apr 2015 #11

You know edhopper Apr 2015 #12

Godless is often used as a rather nasty way to refer to us LostOne4Ever Apr 2015 #13

My submission is - though broader in meaning that just atheists- No Vested Interest Apr 2015 #14

Anti-theist Lordquinton Apr 2015 #15

Richard Dawkins describes himself as an anti-theist. cbayer Apr 2015 #16

The creator of Fatheist describes himself as such Lordquinton Apr 2015 #17

Agree that the terms can be turned on people. cbayer Apr 2015 #18

I dunno, why don't you confer with Rug Lordquinton Apr 2015 #19

Ok, I guess you don't want to have a discussion with me about it. cbayer Apr 2015 #20

Rug said pretty much the same thing I did Lordquinton Apr 2015 #32

I see your point and would only say that I did not take offense, but cbayer Apr 2015 #38

Well, quinton, if you disagree with something I've said, why don't you just post it here? rug Apr 2015 #23

I hear the silence. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #26

Sorry Justin Lordquinton Apr 2015 #34

Damn you have a life! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #36

Read what I said to Ms. Bayer Lordquinton Apr 2015 #33

"I hear the silence" AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #52

Well if someone puts "fucking" in front edhopper Apr 2015 #25

That would be a big clue! cbayer Apr 2015 #27

Then there is the other adjective TexasTowelie Apr 2015 #28

Yep, that could be a double whammy. cbayer Apr 2015 #29

Do you have a link or verifiable quote of Dawkins describing himself as an anti-theist? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #51

I've only ever seen him describe himself as a 'de facto atheist' Rob H. Apr 2015 #54

Me either. I have always seen him qualify the question around the lack of absolute certainty. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #56

They gain by portraying people who disagree with them as "extremists." trotsky Apr 2015 #79

In my opinion, the definition of an "atheist" should be ladjf Apr 2015 #53

Uh oh. Now you've done it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #57

Are all people born without religious ideation? cbayer Apr 2015 #58

Can you source this bullshit? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #61

Back down cowboy. cbayer Apr 2015 #62

Still waiting for a quote where he identifies himself as an anti-theist. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #63

Still waiting... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #65

What do you think the definition of anti-theism is? cbayer Apr 2015 #74

You're not wriggling out of this one, cbayer. trotsky Apr 2015 #75

That's irrelevant...I'd like the source to that quote please... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #76

It's totally relevant. Is there some reason that you don't want him identified as cbayer Apr 2015 #81

Defend your claim, or retract it. trotsky Apr 2015 #83

So NDT is an atheist. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #85

He most certainly is, GM, using the new standard cbayer has decreed should be applied. trotsky Apr 2015 #88

God help me, I love the internet. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #95

How ironic that cbayer and others in her group skepticscott Apr 2015 #114

Do you have a source for your quote or not? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #87

What quote? Are you making the argument that Dawkins is not an anti-theist? cbayer Apr 2015 #96

Cbayer - "Richard Dawkins describes himself as an anti-theist" truebrit71 Apr 2015 #99

Ok, you win. He doesn't describe himself or consider himself an anti-theist. cbayer Apr 2015 #103

It's run its course because YOU say so? truebrit71 Apr 2015 #105

Gee...someone in the bayer family skepticscott Apr 2015 #115

Nice non-apology you've got there. Shame if something were to happen to it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #112

Thanks for admitting that you simply make shit up skepticscott Apr 2015 #116

Well, that was fun, wasn't it? bvf Apr 2015 #119

No, cbayer. You are wrong. Truebrit71 doesn't win - the truth does. trotsky Apr 2015 #121

Not truebrit71's argument. trotsky Apr 2015 #100

A self-admitted wise person once said Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #89

Brilliant. Well done, GM. n/t trotsky Apr 2015 #90

You said he DESCRIBES HIMSELF as an anti-theist. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #92

The ghost of christmas past is paging you. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #94

"exactly as he describes himself, no more no less" trotsky Apr 2015 #101

So, no, you don't have a source for it? Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #66

"Richard Dawkins describes himself as an anti-theist." trotsky Apr 2015 #73

Well, this needed to happen. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #91

BWAH HA HA HA HA HA trotsky Apr 2015 #98

Oh, Trotsky, I don't think the internets are yours to award Heddi Apr 2015 #111

Perfect. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #113

POINTS! beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #120

Richard Dawkins describes himself as an anti-theist. AlbertCat Apr 2015 #67

It is well established that he is anti-relgion. If you need a quote with that particular term, I cbayer Apr 2015 #80

But that wasn't your claim. You have made a false claim. trotsky Apr 2015 #82

I can't help you. AlbertCat Apr 2015 #104

"I doubt you can help anybody"? cbayer Apr 2015 #106

You're done? beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #118

Where did he do that, cbayer? trotsky Apr 2015 #72

Julia Sweeney has an answer to this thread Yorktown Apr 2015 #30

You have it right. trotsky Apr 2015 #39

Agree and I think that is the point to some extent. cbayer Apr 2015 #42

In marketing terms, the 'branding problem' of atheism comes from attack ads Yorktown Apr 2015 #47

I can't disagree, but wherever it comes from, there is clearly a branding problem. cbayer Apr 2015 #49

WTF? trotsky Apr 2015 #48

The only one I've seen around here is 'incurious'. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #31

Miserable Fat Atheist Bastards. Iggo Apr 2015 #35

see post #12 edhopper Apr 2015 #40

Nice! Iggo Apr 2015 #41

I was amused to be called a "Satanist" Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #37

Kevin....where did you PassingFair Apr 2015 #43

Its original Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #44

I'm stealing it....but I'll give you an attribution whenever I do. PassingFair Apr 2015 #45

Help youself Kelvin Mace Apr 2015 #46

There is nil desperandum Apr 2015 #50

Which poll are you referring to? cbayer Apr 2015 #59

Salon nil desperandum Apr 2015 #64

Do you recall where you saw the Salon article? cbayer Apr 2015 #69

Sure nil desperandum Apr 2015 #70

Lol, I posted that article today but did not recognize that it was the one you cbayer Apr 2015 #78

Apparently nil desperandum Apr 2015 #86

Yes, the unelectability factor is really important. cbayer Apr 2015 #93

Trust nil desperandum Apr 2015 #107

I think there is truth to that. cbayer Apr 2015 #108

May nil desperandum Apr 2015 #109

I'm not a believer so I have nothing to reconcile at all. cbayer Apr 2015 #110

well I do believe the term "assholes" has been used right here. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #55

"Calling an atheist an asshole because he is an asshole is not a critique of atheism." rug Apr 2015 #71

My mother used to use "pagan" to describe... Smarmie Doofus Apr 2015 #60

Well, now you've done it. Warpy Apr 2015 #77

Do you see that happening here? cbayer Apr 2015 #97

I do. In post #16. n/t trotsky Apr 2015 #102