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AtheistCrusader

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55. I am aware of a variety of forms of prayer that a variety of types of people exercise.

Tue Apr 28, 2015, 03:13 AM

Apr 2015

Their ways are clearly not my way. I am well aware there are problems I cannot handle. Failure and risk are intrinsic parts of success and reward. They balance the equation. Why on earth would I hope to tip the scales?

I use introspection for an entirely different purpose. You can expand and deform the term prayer all you want, I doubt you are doing to find me caught up by any of it.
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If prayer did anything you wouldn't have to inform the world you are praying. [View all] AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 OP

It's just phil89 Apr 2015 #1

As has been mentioned many times... TreasonousBastard Apr 2015 #2

This is my understanding as well, or ought to be, for christians. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #6

I wish some of our politicians would take that part of the NT to heart. merrily Apr 2015 #79

not necessarily true. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #3

when studied the opposite effect was observed. Warren Stupidity Apr 2015 #19

This really upsets you about a person who finds value in prayer. Nobody forces anyone to pray, still_one Apr 2015 #4

If the person praying finds value in it, then by all means they can pray. trotsky Apr 2015 #5

The only way to get extra credit, is to turn it in. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #7

As a Christian, I don't understand why some brag about praying in public, either. BlueCaliDem Apr 2015 #10

Personally whether some "brags" about does not bother me one way or another. The only thing that still_one Apr 2015 #15

When people think that prayer actually works skepticscott Apr 2015 #8

A condolence card is a material thing. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #9

Actually letting someone know that they're thought of skepticscott Apr 2015 #13

It is their issue not yours, no? Why would anyone care, unless they are trying to impose a belief still_one Apr 2015 #16

If I see people bragging about something, I can and will respond to it. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #17

Like bragging about how far they can throw a plowshare? Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #18

Ask them to empirically demonstrate. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #20

I'm sure you have Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #21

Au contraire AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #23

Sure! Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #24

"sending good thoughts to those suffering"? mr blur Apr 2015 #14

Oh, there are more philosophical problems with praying. DetlefK Apr 2015 #11

Give me a minute here . . . LTX Apr 2015 #57

Yeah, I went over-the-top. DetlefK Apr 2015 #58

I keep praying that "true believers" will see the light. Binkie The Clown Apr 2015 #12

I prayed hard last week Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #22

Who is 'we'? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #25

Humans Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #26

Then no, 'we' do not. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #28

We humans who do. Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #33

I am far from the only one. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #35

Would it bother you if you were the only one? Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #45

I don't, actually. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #46

Except I didn't actually say that, but I might have Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #49

yeah, because posts 22/26 dont exist. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #50

I don't believe you. Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #53

I am aware of a variety of forms of prayer that a variety of types of people exercise. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #55

You don't know what is beyond your 5 sences. upaloopa Apr 2015 #27

And what does it mean to me, when people who believe are prancing about self-congratulating themselv AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #29

It is none if your business if someone feels praying works upaloopa Apr 2015 #30

They make it my business when they frantically post about it all over DU. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #31

Looks like you're digging a big hole with that plowshare Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #34

Did I say I was? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #36

LOL Your entire OP is a strawman Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #43

You're going to have to specify exacly how it's a strawman, because ive seen you AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #44

No I don't. It is your OP Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #47

It would appear, again, that you don't actually know what a strawman fallacy is. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #48

Really? You can't see it for yourself? Starboard Tack Apr 2015 #51

Yeah, because I didn't just read a nearly 200 post thread about people parading their pious hopes AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #52

It's still not your busines, it's Skinner's, rug Apr 2015 #42

If they wanted to be left alone Mariana Apr 2015 #41

Ridicule is not discussion! upaloopa Apr 2015 #60

Telling me AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #63

Good observation. I didn't mean it to be discussion upaloopa Apr 2015 #65

Not me. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #66

That makes no sense. Bring material upaloopa Apr 2015 #71

Sure it can. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #74

Ok I believe in the power of attraction upaloopa Apr 2015 #77

If you had credible evidence to support it, I might be interested. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #80

No not a nuclear force upaloopa Apr 2015 #82

Anecdotes aren't proof. AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #83

I have no desire or need to prove anything to you upaloopa Apr 2015 #84

Ok, so it's a thing that is meaningful to you.i dont see any way it could be AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #85

Woah. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #68

I don't care didily what they think upaloopa Apr 2015 #72

Like you are reacting to what he thinks? Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #73

You don't get it do you? upaloopa Apr 2015 #75

No, you don't get it. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #76

I treat a lot of people like shit. It is just that upaloopa Apr 2015 #78

Where did you get the special gift to decide who gets to be treated that way? Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #81

You're right..it's nobody's business skepticscott Apr 2015 #69

Wow, so much going on in one short post. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #61

People post about a lot of things. We choose to upaloopa Apr 2015 #62

Have you considered that it might be insulting? AtheistCrusader Apr 2015 #64

Because it is passed off as doing something great. Goblinmonger Apr 2015 #67

Perhaps it provides some small measure of comfort? For either party. Or both. I see no harm in that. pinto Apr 2015 #32

Definition: beam me up scottie Apr 2015 #37

They should have prayed before the earthquake edhopper Apr 2015 #38

That's pretty crass, edhopper. Would you say that to a Nepalese survivor of the earthquake? pinto Apr 2015 #39

No edhopper Apr 2015 #40

How is "I'm praying for you" any better? trotsky Apr 2015 #59

If someone said they were going to help by mixing up a magic potion skepticscott Apr 2015 #86

I'm sure some of them did. But it was to the wrong god apparently... truebrit71 Apr 2015 #70

Prayer lets people think they have shuffled responsibility onto someone else (God) Kablooie Apr 2015 #54

The inevitable God cop out. longship Apr 2015 #56