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beam me up scottie

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137. I fear people like him because he needs a god to stop him from committing horrible crimes.

Thu May 7, 2015, 01:51 AM

May 2015

He actually said there are no limits to the lengths he'd go to to "gain total control and dominance, protect my people and my family, and preserve the natural order. None whatsoever" if he didn't believe in god.

What kind of person has that in their heart but doesn't act on it because they're afraid god might punish them in the afterlife?

You're damn right I fear him whether he's religious or not.

Would you let him babysit your kids? What if he suddenly had a crisis of faith?

And that guy is using the same "logic" many believers do, that atheists can't be morally ethical because we have no god to tell us how to behave.

It's another one of those atheist memes, like the ones you were peddling earlier.

Much more damning of theists who believe such things than atheists whose ethical lifestyles prove they're wrong.

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Why Atheists Terrify Believers [View all] gcomeau May 2015 OP

Yeah, since I dont believe in god I must not do the right thing. In reality, some ONLY do the NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #1

They don't scare me. hrmjustin May 2015 #2

A more accurate article title would have been... gcomeau May 2015 #3

Yes. While that does not apply to me personally it certainly does apply to many believers. hrmjustin May 2015 #4

I've seen it apply to you, especially when asked the difficult questions about your faith. cleanhippie May 2015 #11

That is fair but atheist do not make me feel uneasy. hrmjustin May 2015 #12

yeah the headline really doesn't match the actual research. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #10

Or me. 840high May 2015 #13

I think the article only measures one aspect of the unsettling notion of disbelief. LiberalAndProud May 2015 #5

The premise is kind of goofy redstateblues May 2015 #6

+ struggle4progress May 2015 #7

perhaps you should read the article? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #8

The whole study is goofy - a good example of bad science. bananas May 2015 #149

Couldn't agree more. LTX May 2015 #164

Well, my atheist friend okasha May 2015 #9

Woah there, spitfire mr blur May 2015 #15

You may want to focus on the article content, rather than it's title... -eom gcomeau May 2015 #17

Conclusion: people will like you better if you're not hostile to them. okasha May 2015 #18

Or... you could just completely ignore the entire thing... gcomeau May 2015 #19

I just ignore individuals who don't merit okasha May 2015 #21

What did the researchers do to offend you exactly? -eom gcomeau May 2015 #122

Not a thing. okasha May 2015 #132

Then why are you ignoring their work? -eom gcomeau May 2015 #154

I'm not. okasha May 2015 #155

Ahh, I see. gcomeau May 2015 #160

Wrong. Keep trying. okasha May 2015 #161

No, I'm not a big fan of indefinite futile efforts. Thanks anyway. -eom gcomeau May 2015 #163

Of course, you could just read what I actually said, okasha May 2015 #165

Or if you don't make up completely bogus accusations about them. trotsky May 2015 #20

Thank you for another silly post. Starboard Tack May 2015 #136

Hard not to be hostile to people who maintain membership in an org that meddles in my AtheistCrusader May 2015 #22

Understandable. okasha May 2015 #23

Well fine then. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #24

I think you were supposed to defend that murderer, AC. beam me up scottie May 2015 #25

I think you know that's not true. Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #157

Well... gcomeau May 2015 #166

The whole point, but that's okay. okasha May 2015 #174

The findings of the study can be checked by another method Yorktown May 2015 #14

I know several believers that are so invested in their own faith, they have explicitly stated AtheistCrusader May 2015 #16

Everyone fears death especially at the end of life Joe Turner May 2015 #26

Why? AtheistCrusader May 2015 #27

Agreed! nt jonno99 May 2015 #30

Do you fear anyobne you love dying? rug May 2015 #32

I don't think I would use the word 'fear' to characterize it. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #40

The fear (or any other more manly word you choose) of death is most acute when those we love die. rug May 2015 #42

I've lost loved ones. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #46

And no sense of loss? rug May 2015 #48

Sure. i miss my first grade librarian. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #50

Yeah, well I miss my bus. rug May 2015 #52

Me too. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #55

You're free to ignore death. rug May 2015 #56

I just dont dwell on it. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #58

Death defines life. Literally. rug May 2015 #62

Death defines life. Literally. AlbertCat May 2015 #90

Which is why AtheistCrusader May 2015 #133

somehow we got from "fear" to "sense of loss". Not at all the same emotion. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #65

No, but they are related. rug May 2015 #68

not necessarily. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #71

You'd need to read the post I replied to. rug May 2015 #73

oh so you've given up on "they are related". whatever. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #76

No I haven't. But I tend to take very short walks onto tangents. rug May 2015 #80

To fear the inevitable is silly. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #139

No. Because they will all die and there is nothing I can do to stop that. jeff47 May 2015 #178

You are unusual in this regard Joe Turner May 2015 #37

If that is what you value, I wish you luck in your search. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #41

which is more or less the point of the op. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #69

All Life? Cartoonist May 2015 #142

All very well said. bvf May 2015 #147

Everyone knows dogs go to heaven. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #151

I don't, we are no more than a mere blip in universe, I woul fear living forever only... AuntPatsy May 2015 #53

C'mon let's be honest. If we're going to be provocative while we speculate, jonno99 May 2015 #28

Rrrrrright.... it's the atheists that are strangely illogical... truebrit71 May 2015 #34

Your strawmen don't become you... nt jonno99 May 2015 #47

Biblical strawman.... that's a new one... truebrit71 May 2015 #59

You mean like we project our fear... gcomeau May 2015 #35

No it's simply that most atheists - in my experience - "protest too much methinks" nt jonno99 May 2015 #49

"protest too much methinks" AlbertCat May 2015 #95

Please, you're worried about what? Your head being cutoff - by whom? jonno99 May 2015 #124

Please, you're worried about what? Your head being cutoff - by whom? AlbertCat May 2015 #167

Get a clue. Try reading Hamlet rather than misquoting it. "Protest too much" does not mean mr blur May 2015 #145

It isn't the possibility of god that's frightening, LiberalAndProud May 2015 #36

Agreed. I abhor fanaticism wherever it it found... nt jonno99 May 2015 #44

Actually God doesn't need defending. redstateblues May 2015 #106

That's good to know. LiberalAndProud May 2015 #123

Your characterization of "militant" atheists reads like it came from conservapedia. beam me up scottie May 2015 #38

Sorry - I'm not part of the "guys" - I'm just me. jonno99 May 2015 #43

Oh, you're part of the "guys" alright..a long and sordid list of them. A HERETIC I AM May 2015 #60

That it is a sordid and deplorable list. If you have been the target or victim of such jonno99 May 2015 #75

Those "observations" are really just common memes peddled by believers. beam me up scottie May 2015 #85

Please understand that I don't make some claim on "the truth" - jonno99 May 2015 #92

You're a creationist. beam me up scottie May 2015 #93

Well, you're not a creationist. jonno99 May 2015 #125

As an evolutionist I believe in the god of "chance"??? beam me up scottie May 2015 #130

What absolute drivel. mr blur May 2015 #146

So your entire belief system phil89 May 2015 #153

You really don't have any clue about the current state of cosmological theory around how the AtheistCrusader May 2015 #156

Does the "the current state of cosmological theory" provide a clue as to "cause"? jonno99 May 2015 #175

Yes jeff47 May 2015 #179

Yes, that may explain the current state, but it doesn't do much to explain origins...nt jonno99 May 2015 #181

No, it actually does explain the origin of all matter. (nt) jeff47 May 2015 #182

There is a difference between "explaining" - and "offering an explanation". jonno99 May 2015 #183

Nope, there's proof. jeff47 May 2015 #184

Too literal. Flew right over his head. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #191

But where does your God come from? phil89 May 2015 #186

Yes it does. Here, I'll save you reading a whole shelf of books. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #190

Flawed logic + anedcotal evidence = predetermined conclusion Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #159

Great gif! But I find it more than a little ironic that an atheists would use jonno99 May 2015 #176

So let me get this straight: Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #185

Oh right, you're the one who can't even get the ID argument right. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #152

I'm sorry, please fill me in. jonno99 May 2015 #177

I tried to help you out but really it wasn't working. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #187

I am so scared of your imaginary friend in the sky beating me up.... LostOne4Ever May 2015 #119

One of my favourites. beam me up scottie May 2015 #121

The guys that wrote your book believed that the earth was flat. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #140

Tell your measly little god to bring it on skepticscott May 2015 #148

Bar fight! okasha May 2015 #162

You see, it's responses like yours that give me pause to wonder. jonno99 May 2015 #180

Good grief, you need to lighten up skepticscott May 2015 #188

I think he or she knows you weren't serious. Mariana May 2015 #189

Because you aren't an atheist, you're probably completely blind and ignorant to the amount of shit AtheistCrusader May 2015 #192

You're imaginary friend doesn't scare me, sorry. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #158

"There is no safety in numbers. Recruitment will not help you." Mariana May 2015 #169

Interesting article with a "National Enquirer" type title. guillaumeb May 2015 #29

Post of the day - IMHO! jonno99 May 2015 #31

welcome to DU. I hope you enjoy it. guillaumeb May 2015 #33

That's rich coming from you. beam me up scottie May 2015 #39

so by pointing out examples of behavior guillaumeb May 2015 #45

No, by making up shit to "prove" your point, you're promoting bigoted stereotypes. beam me up scottie May 2015 #51

Thank you for proving my point without me naming you. guillaumeb May 2015 #54

What are you talking about? beam me up scottie May 2015 #57

I am not "painting atheists as the bad guys". guillaumeb May 2015 #61

Your first impulse after reading that op was to post about atheists fundamentalists. beam me up scottie May 2015 #77

very nicely said guillaumeb May 2015 #99

Yes we are. beam me up scottie May 2015 #102

I also had a discussion about marriage equality with a neighbor. guillaumeb May 2015 #108

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You only do the right thing because you're afraid of consequences? cyberswede May 2015 #64

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Well, in my culture and period of time, I'm can differentiate between right and wrong. cyberswede May 2015 #67

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What do you mean by "the lastest moral passing fad"? Example? uppityperson May 2015 #74

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"Winning is the only thing that matters"? Wow. I am glad that that has changed. uppityperson May 2015 #100

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Can you give me an example cyberswede May 2015 #81

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See ^^^THIS ^^^ post by Phil Robertson, jonno99? beam me up scottie May 2015 #94

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You're not a strong person, you're weak and pathetic. beam me up scottie May 2015 #97

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Yeah well you're coming up pretty short there too. beam me up scottie May 2015 #107

...and people claim atheists aren't moral. Mind boggling. cyberswede May 2015 #114

David makes a good case for atheism. beam me up scottie May 2015 #117

LOL cyberswede May 2015 #118

It's scary as hell. beam me up scottie May 2015 #120

Or, if he decides Mariana May 2015 #170

He's obviously fantacized about it a lot. beam me up scottie May 2015 #171

Same kind of person that gets a thrill Mariana May 2015 #172

Yes, lol, more ethically superior christians. beam me up scottie May 2015 #173

I think you're creating more straw men. jonno99 May 2015 #127

"straw men"? You keep using that word... beam me up scottie May 2015 #131

No, I got the word 'if'. And if I understand your argument it is that given past wrongs atheists jonno99 May 2015 #135

I fear people like him because he needs a god to stop him from committing horrible crimes. beam me up scottie May 2015 #137

because many other groups in this world have no such restraint AlbertCat May 2015 #98

What do you mean by "the natural order"? uppityperson May 2015 #101

You'd oppress other human beings to gain dominance? cyberswede May 2015 #103

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Yeah. Enough is enough. cyberswede May 2015 #115

lots of atheists and non-theists Terra Alta May 2015 #70

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Again, you imply people only behave because they fear punishment by god. cyberswede May 2015 #83

other than around 2500 years of godless philosophy that describes a good life without god Warren Stupidity May 2015 #84

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Oh goodie! beam me up scottie May 2015 #91

I think you are confusing religion and morality. There are plenty of amoral people who believe in uppityperson May 2015 #104

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Having no concern whether something is wrong or right. uppityperson May 2015 #112

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Wrong. It is possible to determine right or wrong without god. Again, many who claim uppityperson May 2015 #116

You do right because, although you were born evil, you have been corrected Freelancer May 2015 #141

Dumb All Over.. A little ugly on the side... TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #79

Believers find it convenient to forget history Lordquinton May 2015 #87

Whatever anybody chooses to believe is fine with me, as long as they don't impose it on others. Rhiannon12866 May 2015 #88

I didn't think Jews, the original monotheists, believed in an afterlife? n/t zazen May 2015 #126

They do.. gcomeau May 2015 #129

Some do. Some don't. okasha May 2015 #134

just read the review: the conclusions aren't warranted from the data n/t zazen May 2015 #128

Buddhist teacher Stephen Levine addressed a large gsathering once and asked the audience... Binkie The Clown May 2015 #138

Humanity is like a good string of Christmas lights. When one goes out, the rest keep shining Freelancer May 2015 #144

profound. :-) n/t Binkie The Clown May 2015 #168

Atheists make life harder for believers, which also gives them comfort -- go figure Freelancer May 2015 #143

'neutral or death-related words ... SK__L, which could be completed as either "skill" or "skull"' muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #150