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beam me up scottie

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40. bvf was referencing a common apologist meme.
Thu May 14, 2015, 06:35 PM
May 2015

This one:

But then, religion had absolutely nothing to do with that, eh?

We've been told repeatedly that religion is never to blame when religious people do bad things.

Even though the religious people involved did in fact cite religion as their motivation.

You did the same thing here:

"Religion" did not pilot the planes in New York. Some people claiming to be acting from religious motives did.


And now you're claiming that bvf is "broad brushing" religion:

I will make an assumption here that, based on the number 3000, and based on the previous statement about flying airplanes into buildings, that the poster was talking about the Muslims who flew the planes into the World Trade Center.

Add in the part about religion and some few people might just conclude that the poster IS broad brushing an entire religion.


Your "assumption" always seems to be that atheists are intolerant of all religious people, even when they go out of their way to qualify their statements.

Why is that?

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Absent a link to the actual Pew poll in the OP, bvf May 2015 #1
I'm not too surprised even if it's true though. trotsky May 2015 #2
True. bvf May 2015 #3
That can't happen unless one of them is a Catholic, nominal or not. rug May 2015 #14
Her fiancé is nominally catholic, bvf May 2015 #16
Hypocrisy aside, no. rug May 2015 #17
Yeah, I'll get right on that. bvf May 2015 #18
All snark aside, I hope they have a memorable wedding and a happy life together. rug May 2015 #20
I never imagined I'd be saying this, bvf May 2015 #21
My fiancee and I were both raised Catholic, and thought about doing this as well... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #83
It wouldn't surprise me, either. Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #22
Considerable resolve indeed. trotsky May 2015 #23
If humans are hard wired for belief, guillaumeb May 2015 #36
Here you go: trotsky May 2015 #65
Thank you. guillaumeb May 2015 #105
Looking at the actual report edhopper May 2015 #4
Agree. This is the same complaint I had with an article posted yesterday. cbayer May 2015 #7
You are correct. Promethean May 2015 #25
Actually, I think the article points out exactly the opposite of what you are saying. cbayer May 2015 #26
You know the best part about skeptics? Promethean May 2015 #42
You know the very best thing about believers? cbayer May 2015 #45
Really? Promethean May 2015 #48
Dang, nice post. +1 nt F4lconF16 May 2015 #55
Dang, he was able to get all those ad homs in and you didn't have to! cbayer May 2015 #64
I guess someone hit a nerve, eh cbayer? trotsky May 2015 #68
"Ah, the calling someone's point a fallacy fallacy." Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #69
The jokes write themselves, folks! trotsky May 2015 #70
Not remotely comparable. cbayer May 2015 #72
Your responses remind me of a common meme... cleanhippie May 2015 #74
LOL trotsky May 2015 #75
Yes, it is different. Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #79
Bingo. n/t trotsky May 2015 #82
Oh noes! Promethean May 2015 #92
Careful, pointing out her hypocrisy will get you ignored... beam me up scottie May 2015 #93
That post is just so CBAYER. trotsky May 2015 #94
Hey she helps keep thousands of irony meter manufacturing employees employed. beam me up scottie May 2015 #95
That thread was a gift that kept on giving! trotsky May 2015 #97
Ikr? beam me up scottie May 2015 #99
"Agenda". Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #98
Are you calling me a RWer? cbayer May 2015 #96
Not cool? Like accusing 1st Amendment supporters of "cheering" for Geller?: beam me up scottie May 2015 #100
+1,000,000 beam me up scottie May 2015 #56
Oh dear, full of ad homs. cbayer May 2015 #62
Beautiful. trotsky May 2015 #67
Like atheists and agnostics don't? xfundy May 2015 #57
Of course atheists and agnostics do. That was the point of the post. cbayer May 2015 #63
I see religion largely as a language. hunter May 2015 #5
The biggest difference though, is that... trotsky May 2015 #6
That's another flavor of literalism. hunter May 2015 #10
I think the temptation to simply dismiss wrong-headed religion as "literalism"... trotsky May 2015 #11
I like your ""Just the fact's Ma'am" approach to life" image. Yorktown May 2015 #43
size has no relationship to understanding. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #60
But it is limited to the size, and functional limits, of the brain. rug May 2015 #73
Yes. So what? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #76
The so what is we live within many limits. rug May 2015 #77
what does that have to do with our understanding of the universe? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #85
I'm glad you don't disagree with my statement. rug May 2015 #87
The "point" made by hunter Warren Stupidity May 2015 #88
Really, Warren. Read his post without omitting words. rug May 2015 #89
you got nothing. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #102
"you got nothing." rug May 2015 #103
Radiation is invisible, as is gravity. guillaumeb May 2015 #28
As usual, if you want to claim a "god" that does not interact with the universe other Warren Stupidity May 2015 #61
So are leprechauns and unicorns. trotsky May 2015 #66
Unicorns cannot be undetectable. guillaumeb May 2015 #106
Wrong. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #71
If radiation were invisible skepticscott May 2015 #80
Radiation is not always invisible Fumesucker May 2015 #90
Shhh, you're going to totally ruin his "Checkmate, atheists!" moment of triumph. trotsky May 2015 #91
Why do creationists believe the existence of other invisible things = a creator? beam me up scottie May 2015 #101
I'm seeing a lot more about "cultural" christians, particularly cultural catholics. cbayer May 2015 #8
Oh I don't think anyone has a problem distinguishing between "good" and "evil" uses of religion. trotsky May 2015 #9
If you can't define good and evil, you'll have a hard time distinguishing between them. rug May 2015 #15
One of the uses of religion Mariana May 2015 #84
It's also one of the functions of civil law. rug May 2015 #86
Flying two hijacked airliners into buildings bvf May 2015 #12
Exactly. trotsky May 2015 #19
"Dropping two nuclear devoces on Japanese cities on order to kill hundreds guillaumeb May 2015 #27
"Some people claiming to be acting from religious motives did" beam me up scottie May 2015 #29
We should believe that they are possibly being truthful as to motivation, guillaumeb May 2015 #31
All religious people believe that "their interpretation" of their religion is correct. beam me up scottie May 2015 #33
People generally believe that their perceptions are correct. guillaumeb May 2015 #35
Iow, no one actually condemned all muslims. beam me up scottie May 2015 #37
No one specifically condemned "ALL Muslims" guillaumeb May 2015 #39
bvf was referencing a common apologist meme. beam me up scottie May 2015 #40
So you broad brush me as an attempt to rebut the evidence I produced guillaumeb May 2015 #46
What evidence? beam me up scottie May 2015 #47
you asked about atheists who broad brush, I provided a link, guillaumeb May 2015 #49
Where was the broad brush? beam me up scottie May 2015 #50
Where was the broad brush? guillaumeb May 2015 #51
You said you had evidence of broad brush bigotry and have yet to produce it. beam me up scottie May 2015 #52
Already produced. Can actually be read in this conversation. eom guillaumeb May 2015 #53
Where? beam me up scottie May 2015 #54
Do you doubt for a fucking moment bvf May 2015 #30
define heathenism in this context. guillaumeb May 2015 #32
And how, exactly? bvf May 2015 #34
heathen meaning non-western? guillaumeb May 2015 #38
No, "heathen" being non-christian. bvf May 2015 #41
Wow. That was one tortured analogy. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #58
Torture is also a war crime. eom guillaumeb May 2015 #104
Very insightful comment, Hunter. Thanks for sharing. nt No Vested Interest May 2015 #13
The headline is, unsurprisingly, wrong. gcomeau May 2015 #24
True: the title of the article is false. Plain wrong. Yorktown May 2015 #44
No. shenmue May 2015 #78
What? -eom gcomeau May 2015 #81
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #59
Nones.. MellowDem May 2015 #107
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