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edhopper

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7. NDT on philosophy

Mon May 18, 2015, 10:09 AM

May 2015

more specifically, the philosophy of science:
https://scientiasalon.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/neil-degrasse-tyson-and-the-value-of-philosophy/

More nuanced than Pigliucci says.

I have enjoyed Pigliucci's writing for years, he is a great defender of the rational.

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Reflections on the skeptic and atheist movements [View all] rug May 2015 OP

Nothing to see here. immoderate May 2015 #1

Thanks rug for a very interesting link. guillaumeb May 2015 #2

Do you really understand what it's like to be thought of by your family as the Devil? Fumesucker May 2015 #4

I cannot understand what it is to be like anyone but myself. That goes also for all. guillaumeb May 2015 #33

Maybe I haven't been abused as seriously as some of these other people Fumesucker May 2015 #43

Another nuanced reply. guillaumeb May 2015 #45

no, don't add another perspective Lordquinton May 2015 #46

I do listen, but not always in agreement. guillaumeb May 2015 #51

You my not intentionally be dismissing people's experiences Lordquinton May 2015 #53

Dare I offer yet ANOTHER perspective? guillaumeb May 2015 #54

Nuance is all well and good but sometimes the torpedoes need to be damned and full speed ahead Fumesucker May 2015 #49

Nicely put, and disturbing also. guillaumeb May 2015 #50

Your question is dead on Yorktown May 2015 #52

And you have always been wrong edhopper May 2015 #8

Wrong or incorrect? guillaumeb May 2015 #34

incorrect edhopper May 2015 #40

Incorrect according to whom? cbayer May 2015 #41

Fundamentalist atheists share many of the same attitudes guillaumeb May 2015 #42

Ooooh, you're going to get it now. The emperor has no clothes cbayer May 2015 #12

My reply names no one, nor is it required. guillaumeb May 2015 #35

No names are required, I agree. cbayer May 2015 #37

Very interesting response. hrmjustin May 2015 #16

There is no excuse for rudeness. guillaumeb May 2015 #36

Nothing, it accomplishes nothing. hrmjustin May 2015 #38

Oh, it accomplishes something, but only if you let it. cbayer May 2015 #44

+1 Sobax May 2015 #39

I like where he is going and hope to see more follow. cbayer May 2015 #3

Pigliucci nil desperandum May 2015 #5

So, what do you think of the position he takes in this article? cbayer May 2015 #9

I think nil desperandum May 2015 #13

I'm not very familiar with him so I appreciate the background you are providing. cbayer May 2015 #17

but of course the ol' burden-of-proof blame game is pretty dangerous for someone so close to LogPos MisterP May 2015 #32

they will ignore that he made this argument Lordquinton May 2015 #47

I'm not sure what evidence he has... MellowDem May 2015 #6

"I have recently considered sending such a letter to the skeptic and atheist movements cbayer May 2015 #11

Indeed nil desperandum May 2015 #14

Where? MellowDem May 2015 #15

I find it helpful in situations like this to remember Rob H. May 2015 #19

Hitchen's Razor: The burden of proof in a debate lies with whoever makes the claim. cbayer May 2015 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author Rob H. May 2015 #21

What claim have I made and what have I been asked to provide evidence for? cbayer May 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author Rob H. May 2015 #24

That wasn't asked of me. You might be bowing out, but it's not for the reason you state. cbayer May 2015 #25

It needs to be noted that your post was edited while I was replying to it, cbayer May 2015 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author Rob H. May 2015 #28

I did not assume anything else and did not think it was nefarious in any way. cbayer May 2015 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Rob H. May 2015 #30

I'm not claiming it doesn't exist... MellowDem May 2015 #23

A subgroup is a subgroup. If it's a fan group, then that's kind of the point. cbayer May 2015 #27

logic fail Lordquinton May 2015 #48

Not only do they fail to see the inherent hypocrisy, their righteous indignation about it cbayer May 2015 #18

NDT on philosophy edhopper May 2015 #7

Looks like turf battles to me. cbayer May 2015 #10

It sounds like the Chomsky/Harris exchange pushed Pigliucci over the line. Jim__ May 2015 #31