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trotsky

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59. Because it means the influence of the church (i.e., its leaders) will wane.

Reply to guillaumeb (Reply #54)

Fri May 22, 2015, 04:14 PM

May 2015

Less political force to oppose reproductive rights, LGBTQ equality, etc.

That's great news, isn't it?

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The Catholic Church’s American downfall: Why its demographic crisis is great news for the country [View all] trotsky May 2015 OP

#winning AtheistCrusader May 2015 #1

I'm praying these trends continue. nt. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #2

this ---> Binkie The Clown May 2015 #3

Agreed, these are all very positive trends! trotsky May 2015 #5

You left out the important part, trotsky. rug May 2015 #4

If I may say. .. Trajan May 2015 #52

I will only say two things. 1) With superstition comes many cultural values. rug May 2015 #53

You're right ... Trajan May 2015 #58

Human sacrifice was conducted on pyramids built with great skill and geometric knowledge. rug May 2015 #68

Religion matches the definition of superstition Yorktown May 2015 #74

The key word that emphasizes the difference is "irrational". rug May 2015 #75

Show me belief in Jeezus or muhamad is rational. Yorktown May 2015 #85

Show me it's irrational. it's your claim. rug May 2015 #86

it's irrational to believe in something that can not be shown or demonstrated Yorktown May 2015 #87

That's simply the hoary material evidence for the immaterial argument. rug May 2015 #88

You would have to show why to believe in anything 'immaterial' Yorktown May 2015 #89

You completely miss the point. rug May 2015 #90

Who says god is immaterial? Yorktown May 2015 #91

As soon as you tell me who us is. rug May 2015 #92

As if you did not know. Yorktown May 2015 #93

Ditto. rug May 2015 #94

Still waiting for you to explain your sentences Yorktown May 2015 #95

Note the material attributes of YHWH. rug May 2015 #96

You are not an exam jury. Answer my questions first, I'll answer yours. Yorktown May 2015 #97

Lol, we're not playing doctor. I'll show mine in due course. rug May 2015 #98

I already asked you, how do you know 'god' has no physical attributes? Yorktown May 2015 #99

Because one with attribute has limitations and therefore is neither infinite nor supernatural. rug May 2015 #100

Philosophy was an umbrella word which lost many branches over time Yorktown May 2015 #102

Not only do you not understand the concept of God, you don't understand what philosophy is. rug May 2015 #104

LOL explain both then. Yorktown May 2015 #105

I suggest you start reading first. rug May 2015 #106

Dontcha you no worry 'bout me reedin' Yorktown May 2015 #107

Subreddits don't count. rug May 2015 #108

Damn. A shame, really. Yorktown May 2015 #109

Superstition and religion are synonymous. nt Arugula Latte May 2015 #101

Yup. Unless someone can come up with a demonstrable difference. Yorktown May 2015 #103

"slightly" PoutrageFatigue May 2015 #6

Uh oh. trotsky May 2015 #7

Are you more interested in the elimination of Catholicism than in political influence? rug May 2015 #8

4 in 10 = slightly PoutrageFatigue May 2015 #9

You should post the source of that stat because it really doesn't match the chart. rug May 2015 #12

" (smiley omitted, because I'm not twelve.)" - interesting. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #15

The source is the Pew poll muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #16

It's also the source for a six percent decline. rug May 2015 #17

Why do you say a 6% decline? Jim__ May 2015 #33

I don't see this in the poll edhopper May 2015 #34

The OP article talks about it a little bit. Jim__ May 2015 #35

Is my math off? rug May 2015 #38

No. Did you see the ETA at the end of my post? Jim__ May 2015 #48

Thanks. rug May 2015 #49

But you continually phil89 May 2015 #57

If you mean my reflexive knee jerks have declined, unlike yours, yes, then that is mature. rug May 2015 #69

I see no reason to believe you are not twelve. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #11

Then you should brush up on reason. rug May 2015 #13

why? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #14

You're not Socrates either. rug May 2015 #18

Well you accidentally got something right. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #22

Better than yor usual deliberately getting things wrong. rug May 2015 #23

you really are. Lordquinton May 2015 #36

Are what, quinton? rug May 2015 #37

oh rug, you know. nt Lordquinton May 2015 #43

No, I don't know what thoughts inhabit your skull. Do tell. rug May 2015 #46

I am proud to say Cartoonist May 2015 #10

What force was used? rug May 2015 #19

never being given a choice Cartoonist May 2015 #20

What other choices did you lose at age seven? rug May 2015 #21

A lot of minor stuff Cartoonist May 2015 #24

i think you lost your minor stuff when you turned 18 Lordquinton May 2015 #55

Minimize, deflect, dismiss. Classic rug. Anything for the church. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #25

Oh get over yourself. rug May 2015 #27

Wait a minute... NeoGreen May 2015 #31

No, because evidence is applicable only to things that can be seen, measured or sensually perceived. rug May 2015 #39

Ask the thousands of children raped by catholic priests about truebrit71 May 2015 #28

Be my guest to approach rape victims to support your anti-religious agenda. rug May 2015 #40

Interesting that your pro-catholic church agenda is to continue... truebrit71 May 2015 #41

Not nearly as telling as using rape as a prop. rug May 2015 #42

Or you continuing to deflect... truebrit71 May 2015 #44

The post was about Communion. You took it upon yourself to inject rape. rug May 2015 #45

No, the post was in response to your question "Which other choices did you lose at age seven?' truebrit71 May 2015 #47

Naturally, rape was one of the choices in your mind. rug May 2015 #50

Naturally, afterall, we were talking about the catholic church... truebrit71 May 2015 #51

Next time I mention the Cathedral of Notre Dame, rug May 2015 #56

And the apologist with nothing but continued deflections... truebrit71 May 2015 #61

The only deflection in this thread is coming from your keyboard. rug May 2015 #67

..... he said as he deflected again.... truebrit71 May 2015 #71

Good news indeed, when repressive rightwing institutions start to show major cracks. Arugula Latte May 2015 #26

Who proofreads this stuff? Flying Squirrel May 2015 #29

Spellcheck is good enough,right? trotsky May 2015 #30

Going through motions to please older generation HockeyMom May 2015 #32

I missed the part about "why" this is great news for the country. guillaumeb May 2015 #54

Because it means the influence of the church (i.e., its leaders) will wane. trotsky May 2015 #59

The influence of the institutional church may wane, guillaumeb May 2015 #60

So, without religion, we turn communist? Humanist_Activist May 2015 #62

I said nothing of the sort. guillaumeb May 2015 #63

I'm sorry, I find tact wasted on those who specialize in dishonest rhetoric and argument. Humanist_Activist May 2015 #64

Let us use all 4 as examples guillaumeb May 2015 #65

But non-believers don't point to atheism as a moral system, religious believers do do so... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #66

And I must agree with you guillaumeb May 2015 #70

I will argue that the Catholic Church's loss of influence is a positive thing, case in point... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #72

That vote was amazing. guillaumeb May 2015 #73

Hell yeah. That was a HUGE "fuck off" to the RCC. Arugula Latte May 2015 #76

How many active Catholics do you figure voted to legalize? rug May 2015 #78

Plenty, in fact, I would say the majority, and that's the point, the Church is losing its.... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #79

If they're active, the institution is fine. rug May 2015 #81

Oh, probably a lot. And they realize they don't need to take the dogma seriously Arugula Latte May 2015 #80

Do you think active Catholics who voted to legalize are complicit in homophobic bigotry? rug May 2015 #82

I'm talking about the Grand Poohbahs -- WonderPope, bishops, cardinals, priests -- Arugula Latte May 2015 #83

And the answer to the qestion is . . . . ? rug May 2015 #84

From my personal experience... malokvale77 May 2015 #77

How many former Catholics have become evangelicals? Gloria May 2015 #110

Quite a few, from what I've heard. trotsky May 2015 #111