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guillaumeb

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70. And I must agree with you

Fri May 22, 2015, 09:05 PM

May 2015

I would also add that no belief system is an accurate predictor of behavior.

(I thought that the post about Sweden was interesting, and brought it up because it shows how racism can be a problem even in very otherwise enlightened countries. )

Ultimately, people should be nice to each other without needing religion as a reason. I am a person of faith, but I "do unto others" because it simply makes sense.

Have a nice night.

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The Catholic Church’s American downfall: Why its demographic crisis is great news for the country [View all] trotsky May 2015 OP

#winning AtheistCrusader May 2015 #1

I'm praying these trends continue. nt. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #2

this ---> Binkie The Clown May 2015 #3

Agreed, these are all very positive trends! trotsky May 2015 #5

You left out the important part, trotsky. rug May 2015 #4

If I may say. .. Trajan May 2015 #52

I will only say two things. 1) With superstition comes many cultural values. rug May 2015 #53

You're right ... Trajan May 2015 #58

Human sacrifice was conducted on pyramids built with great skill and geometric knowledge. rug May 2015 #68

Religion matches the definition of superstition Yorktown May 2015 #74

The key word that emphasizes the difference is "irrational". rug May 2015 #75

Show me belief in Jeezus or muhamad is rational. Yorktown May 2015 #85

Show me it's irrational. it's your claim. rug May 2015 #86

it's irrational to believe in something that can not be shown or demonstrated Yorktown May 2015 #87

That's simply the hoary material evidence for the immaterial argument. rug May 2015 #88

You would have to show why to believe in anything 'immaterial' Yorktown May 2015 #89

You completely miss the point. rug May 2015 #90

Who says god is immaterial? Yorktown May 2015 #91

As soon as you tell me who us is. rug May 2015 #92

As if you did not know. Yorktown May 2015 #93

Ditto. rug May 2015 #94

Still waiting for you to explain your sentences Yorktown May 2015 #95

Note the material attributes of YHWH. rug May 2015 #96

You are not an exam jury. Answer my questions first, I'll answer yours. Yorktown May 2015 #97

Lol, we're not playing doctor. I'll show mine in due course. rug May 2015 #98

I already asked you, how do you know 'god' has no physical attributes? Yorktown May 2015 #99

Because one with attribute has limitations and therefore is neither infinite nor supernatural. rug May 2015 #100

Philosophy was an umbrella word which lost many branches over time Yorktown May 2015 #102

Not only do you not understand the concept of God, you don't understand what philosophy is. rug May 2015 #104

LOL explain both then. Yorktown May 2015 #105

I suggest you start reading first. rug May 2015 #106

Dontcha you no worry 'bout me reedin' Yorktown May 2015 #107

Subreddits don't count. rug May 2015 #108

Damn. A shame, really. Yorktown May 2015 #109

Superstition and religion are synonymous. nt Arugula Latte May 2015 #101

Yup. Unless someone can come up with a demonstrable difference. Yorktown May 2015 #103

"slightly" PoutrageFatigue May 2015 #6

Uh oh. trotsky May 2015 #7

Are you more interested in the elimination of Catholicism than in political influence? rug May 2015 #8

4 in 10 = slightly PoutrageFatigue May 2015 #9

You should post the source of that stat because it really doesn't match the chart. rug May 2015 #12

" (smiley omitted, because I'm not twelve.)" - interesting. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #15

The source is the Pew poll muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #16

It's also the source for a six percent decline. rug May 2015 #17

Why do you say a 6% decline? Jim__ May 2015 #33

I don't see this in the poll edhopper May 2015 #34

The OP article talks about it a little bit. Jim__ May 2015 #35

Is my math off? rug May 2015 #38

No. Did you see the ETA at the end of my post? Jim__ May 2015 #48

Thanks. rug May 2015 #49

But you continually phil89 May 2015 #57

If you mean my reflexive knee jerks have declined, unlike yours, yes, then that is mature. rug May 2015 #69

I see no reason to believe you are not twelve. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #11

Then you should brush up on reason. rug May 2015 #13

why? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #14

You're not Socrates either. rug May 2015 #18

Well you accidentally got something right. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #22

Better than yor usual deliberately getting things wrong. rug May 2015 #23

you really are. Lordquinton May 2015 #36

Are what, quinton? rug May 2015 #37

oh rug, you know. nt Lordquinton May 2015 #43

No, I don't know what thoughts inhabit your skull. Do tell. rug May 2015 #46

I am proud to say Cartoonist May 2015 #10

What force was used? rug May 2015 #19

never being given a choice Cartoonist May 2015 #20

What other choices did you lose at age seven? rug May 2015 #21

A lot of minor stuff Cartoonist May 2015 #24

i think you lost your minor stuff when you turned 18 Lordquinton May 2015 #55

Minimize, deflect, dismiss. Classic rug. Anything for the church. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #25

Oh get over yourself. rug May 2015 #27

Wait a minute... NeoGreen May 2015 #31

No, because evidence is applicable only to things that can be seen, measured or sensually perceived. rug May 2015 #39

Ask the thousands of children raped by catholic priests about truebrit71 May 2015 #28

Be my guest to approach rape victims to support your anti-religious agenda. rug May 2015 #40

Interesting that your pro-catholic church agenda is to continue... truebrit71 May 2015 #41

Not nearly as telling as using rape as a prop. rug May 2015 #42

Or you continuing to deflect... truebrit71 May 2015 #44

The post was about Communion. You took it upon yourself to inject rape. rug May 2015 #45

No, the post was in response to your question "Which other choices did you lose at age seven?' truebrit71 May 2015 #47

Naturally, rape was one of the choices in your mind. rug May 2015 #50

Naturally, afterall, we were talking about the catholic church... truebrit71 May 2015 #51

Next time I mention the Cathedral of Notre Dame, rug May 2015 #56

And the apologist with nothing but continued deflections... truebrit71 May 2015 #61

The only deflection in this thread is coming from your keyboard. rug May 2015 #67

..... he said as he deflected again.... truebrit71 May 2015 #71

Good news indeed, when repressive rightwing institutions start to show major cracks. Arugula Latte May 2015 #26

Who proofreads this stuff? Flying Squirrel May 2015 #29

Spellcheck is good enough,right? trotsky May 2015 #30

Going through motions to please older generation HockeyMom May 2015 #32

I missed the part about "why" this is great news for the country. guillaumeb May 2015 #54

Because it means the influence of the church (i.e., its leaders) will wane. trotsky May 2015 #59

The influence of the institutional church may wane, guillaumeb May 2015 #60

So, without religion, we turn communist? Humanist_Activist May 2015 #62

I said nothing of the sort. guillaumeb May 2015 #63

I'm sorry, I find tact wasted on those who specialize in dishonest rhetoric and argument. Humanist_Activist May 2015 #64

Let us use all 4 as examples guillaumeb May 2015 #65

But non-believers don't point to atheism as a moral system, religious believers do do so... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #66

And I must agree with you guillaumeb May 2015 #70

I will argue that the Catholic Church's loss of influence is a positive thing, case in point... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #72

That vote was amazing. guillaumeb May 2015 #73

Hell yeah. That was a HUGE "fuck off" to the RCC. Arugula Latte May 2015 #76

How many active Catholics do you figure voted to legalize? rug May 2015 #78

Plenty, in fact, I would say the majority, and that's the point, the Church is losing its.... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #79

If they're active, the institution is fine. rug May 2015 #81

Oh, probably a lot. And they realize they don't need to take the dogma seriously Arugula Latte May 2015 #80

Do you think active Catholics who voted to legalize are complicit in homophobic bigotry? rug May 2015 #82

I'm talking about the Grand Poohbahs -- WonderPope, bishops, cardinals, priests -- Arugula Latte May 2015 #83

And the answer to the qestion is . . . . ? rug May 2015 #84

From my personal experience... malokvale77 May 2015 #77

How many former Catholics have become evangelicals? Gloria May 2015 #110

Quite a few, from what I've heard. trotsky May 2015 #111