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rug

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43. I disagree with yo on 6, 9, and 10.
Mon May 25, 2015, 06:40 PM
May 2015

As to 6, the demand for material, demonstrable evidence is the heart of the argument. By definition a god is super-natural, beyond the usual, natural metrics and tests. The challenge is really to the notion of such an entity, not its footprints. The challenge is philosophical. So, I disagree with the level of importance you give it.

As to 9, the portrayal of religion on the internet is sally a strawman. Understandably so, because it is then easier to push over. I really would like to see a discussion about a god or gods that does not start with a caricature.

As to 10, "Its the internet dude, get over it" hardly covers the assholery that goes on all over the internet, including here, whenever the subject of religion comes up. The internet is too powerful and valuable a resource to leave to high-fiving assholes, religious or atheist.

I think he and you have some very solid observations,

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An article worth reading [View all] Leontius May 2015 OP
this link edgineered May 2015 #1
Thats it, I screwed up my link thanks for showing one that works. Leontius May 2015 #2
So I read the piece and well... Promethean May 2015 #3
I think the point he makes Leontius May 2015 #5
Argument No.3 DetlefK May 2015 #15
I think it's unnecessarily provocative. cbayer May 2015 #4
If it causes some to look inside themselves Leontius May 2015 #6
I'd bet the farm that it will not make anyone look inside themselves. cbayer May 2015 #8
People are what they are Leontius May 2015 #10
Of course it's on them, but ask yourself how you would cbayer May 2015 #11
You see it here all the time Leontius May 2015 #12
Yes you do see it all the time and I don't think it accomplishes anything positive. cbayer May 2015 #17
Yeah it is "most" Leontius May 2015 #19
I don't have on blinders and the fact that you think it's most means cbayer May 2015 #21
I do ignore those that deserve it Leontius May 2015 #23
I agree with you about the enforced groupthink cbayer May 2015 #27
"Wording" Warren Stupidity May 2015 #7
Thanks for pointing that out I'll fix it Leontius May 2015 #9
Saw that too. n/t. bvf May 2015 #14
Gee, you didn't put "repulsive hate screed" in your alert message. rug May 2015 #33
I didn't alert. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #37
An OP about exactly this article was hidden a few hours ago. DetlefK May 2015 #13
Now you have a second chance to rebuke it Leontius May 2015 #16
Real quick: DetlefK May 2015 #51
Nice refutation! (nt) mr blur May 2015 #70
Somebody preferred to silence discssion tratheher than rebut it. rug May 2015 #34
jury system sucks doesn't it? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #38
No, its the best thing about DU3. rug May 2015 #41
Oh so it is fine except when it gets you. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #45
Oh, is that what I said? rug May 2015 #47
That is the implication. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #50
That was your inference, your dishonest inference. rug May 2015 #53
Sure. That is why you are consistently and publicly upset every time you get a hide. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #55
Oh, bullshit, warren. rug May 2015 #56
Nope. My comment about your op being a hate screed was accurate. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #57
So are my comments about what you're doing. rug May 2015 #59
The jury system you think works so well Warren Stupidity May 2015 #61
It did. I'll remember the alert rationale: rug May 2015 #64
go for it. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #66
This Group is subject to the same rules as the rest of DU. rug May 2015 #67
"it's just easier to game" Warren Stupidity May 2015 #68
There are no "outsiders" here. it's a completely open Group. rug May 2015 #69
Well said Rug. hrmjustin May 2015 #48
Just served on a jury. NYC_SKP May 2015 #62
What's that phrase, "alert stalkers"? rug May 2015 #63
Yup, that's the phrase. NYC_SKP May 2015 #65
It has its drawbacks but it works at times. hrmjustin May 2015 #49
Not worth reading Cartoonist May 2015 #18
Why is it not worth reading Leontius May 2015 #22
See reply #11 Cartoonist May 2015 #24
You can get hurt and go home or you can stay and see if Leontius May 2015 #25
When those are your first words Cartoonist May 2015 #26
Then we've both met many posters who fit that bill. Leontius May 2015 #29
I know someone who has made similar remarks Cartoonist May 2015 #42
Why do you think I posted this? Leontius May 2015 #44
OK, I'll accept that. rock May 2015 #20
oh, bother edhopper May 2015 #28
A rebuttal... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #30
Excellent Leontius May 2015 #35
Shouldn't be difficult, Father Dwight Longenecker is one of those guys who... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #39
I agree with 9 of your 12 points. rug May 2015 #36
I have to ask, which ones? n/t Humanist_Activist May 2015 #40
I disagree with yo on 6, 9, and 10. rug May 2015 #43
I've seen atheists ask for some type of evidence that prayer works... Humanist_Activist May 2015 #46
Your objection to number 6 is insufficient. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #52
So, you believe there is "real" evidence that is not material? rug May 2015 #54
Why wouldn't there be material evidence? AtheistCrusader May 2015 #60
FYI, this was the alert message: rug May 2015 #31
His real reason -- losing every argument! immoderate May 2015 #32
LOL trotsky May 2015 #58
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