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Agnosticsherbet

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31. Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy

Tue May 26, 2015, 07:14 PM

May 2015

Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions.
Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy of Right

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Warning Over Religious Believers in Chinese Communist Party Ranks [View all] rug May 2015 OP

No opiate of the masses for party members Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #1

I'd like to know where they got the quote from. rug May 2015 #2

It's not a giant leap just based on the opiate of the people quote Leontius May 2015 #4

Then that's the stupidest thing to come out of the CCP since Deng died. rug May 2015 #5

We'll just have to disagree the "opiate" is just as much or more so the substance as manner . Leontius May 2015 #11

Maybe from: Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844 - Private Property and Communism Jim__ May 2015 #7

Yes, that seems the closest source. rug May 2015 #8

Karl Marx, Critique of Hegel’s Philosophy Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #31

They are like edhopper May 2015 #3

Disgraceful! hrmjustin May 2015 #6

Interestingly, the CPUSA takes no such position. rug May 2015 #9

Certainly more inclusive. hrmjustin May 2015 #10

They are not going to win this. cbayer May 2015 #12

religion needed ignorance to last. That's why it will wane. Yorktown May 2015 #13

You sound like Jeremiah. rug May 2015 #14

Forecast isn't prophecy, brother rug Yorktown May 2015 #15

Neither is rank speculation. rug May 2015 #16

Wrong choice of words Yorktown May 2015 #17

The words precisely match the definition. rug May 2015 #18

Your acceptation of the word speculation is wrong Yorktown May 2015 #19

Horseshit. rug May 2015 #20

You are now making three mistakes Yorktown May 2015 #21

1 is demonstrably incorrect. rug May 2015 #22

please demonstrate 1 Yorktown May 2015 #23

1 I prefer not to root through your posts at the moment but it remains demonstrable. rug May 2015 #24

1 you say you can demonstrate it, but won't. Playing tennis without a net much? Yorktown May 2015 #33

1 So much for civil discssion. rug May 2015 #36

1 was a factual observation, and tennis without a net a descriptive image Yorktown May 2015 #39

1 I have yet to see you post a factual observation in this subthread. rug May 2015 #42

1- I factually observed some of your mistakes Yorktown May 2015 #45

1 Sure you did. rug May 2015 #47

OK, let's reset the game. Yorktown May 2015 #49

Game over. rug May 2015 #50

So much for your desire to exchange on a discussion board. Yorktown May 2015 #51

Do you think your religion will wane? hrmjustin May 2015 #29

No. Because it is the ultimate religion, the only true one. Yorktown May 2015 #34

oh ok. hrmjustin May 2015 #35

What is your Church denomination? Yorktown May 2015 #37

I am Episcopalian. hrmjustin May 2015 #38

Protestant, Yet Catholic? Do you believe in saints? Yorktown May 2015 #40

Yes. hrmjustin May 2015 #41

All the catholic saints? Yorktown May 2015 #43

All believers are saints. Living and dead. hrmjustin May 2015 #44

There are about 10'000 RCC 'saints'. Do you revere them as holy people? Yorktown May 2015 #46

I don't pray to them but yes for the most part. hrmjustin May 2015 #48

OK, would you like to play a fun game? (one I tried) Yorktown May 2015 #52

No thank you. hrmjustin May 2015 #53

And yet, you said you believed in most of the RCC saints. Yorktown May 2015 #56

I am not that concerned about it. hrmjustin May 2015 #57

And yet you wrote "I don't pray to them but yes (I believe in them) for the most part." Yorktown May 2015 #58

Well this has been fun. hrmjustin May 2015 #59

I tried to save you. Yorktown May 2015 #60

Bye. hrmjustin May 2015 #61

Well nil desperandum May 2015 #25

would this be an example of "atheistic-type fundamentalists" guillaumeb May 2015 #26

Fundamentalism does not apply to atheism. phil89 May 2015 #27

A careful reading will show that I actually said: guillaumeb May 2015 #28

Fundamentalism can apply to anything, and particularly cbayer May 2015 #30

The CCP disagrees. rug May 2015 #32

Marx was wrong about a lot of things. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #54

Idk about that. Some atheists are pretty fundamentally adhered to the claim that there is no God or afterlife. PoliticalPothead May 2015 #55

Nothing you said makes sense, because your entire premise is wrong. F4lconF16 Jun 2015 #62

Marx was referring to religion as being a tool of the capitalists. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #63

No, it can't Lordquinton Jun 2015 #64

different rules for different belief systems? guillaumeb Jun 2015 #65