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133. The literal Moses story is extremely improbable, based on facts.

Wed May 27, 2015, 09:17 PM

May 2015

2M people living in a country of 3M and leaving no trace is unlikely.
That people claiming names (Hebrews, Israel) not yet attested at the time is problematic.
A 2M people exodus over 40 years leaving no trace in a desert is unlikely.
A murderer living up to 120 years to lead them and get 10 dubious commandments is unlikely.

Add all these up, and the Bible Moses story is full of holes.

Do you accept you take on faith a story which is contradicted by evidence?

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New Religions: (3) the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster [View all] Yorktown May 2015 OP

Praise to his High Priest edhopper May 2015 #1

Heretic! Do not try to create schisms among our Church. Yorktown May 2015 #2

Forgive me my trespasses edhopper May 2015 #3

ego te absolvo a peccatis tuis, brother hopper,.. Yorktown May 2015 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2015 #103

Ramen! n/t trotsky May 2015 #5

Pasta be upon you, brother Trotsky. Yorktown May 2015 #6

FSM has been decreed by the Almighty and Powerful Internet Forum Hosting God as farce. cleanhippie May 2015 #7

LOL EvilAL May 2015 #8

Well then, FSM is in good company. trotsky May 2015 #9

That's Bronze Age religions privilege. Yorktown May 2015 #10

From the owner of the site hrmjustin May 2015 #43

+1 rug May 2015 #45

Yes one can say that as well. hrmjustin May 2015 #46

FSM makes as much phil89 May 2015 #54

Your opinion. hrmjustin May 2015 #55

But you enforce whose opinion gets to discuss Yorktown May 2015 #108

And the owner told you it is my job to decide these things. hrmjustin May 2015 #109

How so? Yorktown May 2015 #110

The was the site works is groups have hosts that run the room and they decide what goes on in the hrmjustin May 2015 #111

I will answer the administrator because it's fun Yorktown May 2015 #113

Imlook foward to reading your response. hrmjustin May 2015 #114

As for the rest of my posts, I'll keep you informed. Yorktown May 2015 #116

You can take it however you want. hrmjustin May 2015 #117

You already said that probably 10 times Yorktown May 2015 #118

Maybe more. hrmjustin May 2015 #119

No wonder you reached 58'000 posts Yorktown May 2015 #120

Maybe but i am also on mirt and that gets your post count up as well. hrmjustin May 2015 #122

I hope you don't forget to tell them you're a mod Yorktown May 2015 #123

They are aware of it. hrmjustin May 2015 #124

Thank goodness Yorktown May 2015 #125

Not really. hrmjustin May 2015 #126

Why don't you tell me who you think the Bible's Moses was? Yorktown May 2015 #127

it is something i take on faith. hrmjustin May 2015 #128

But you know verifiable facts make the literal Moses story impossible. Yorktown May 2015 #129

When you get 100 percent proof it did not happen let me know. hrmjustin May 2015 #130

No 100% proof of the inexistence of unicorns either Yorktown May 2015 #131

And? hrmjustin May 2015 #132

The literal Moses story is extremely improbable, based on facts. Yorktown May 2015 #133

Can you prove the FSM exists? hrmjustin May 2015 #134

The FSM is not contradicted by evidence, the Moses story is. Yorktown May 2015 #135

Do you take the FSM on faith? If not prove he exists. hrmjustin May 2015 #136

Faith is acceptable as long as there is no contrary evidence. Yorktown May 2015 #137

Well thanks for pointing it out. hrmjustin May 2015 #138

I am admirative Yorktown May 2015 #139

No i don't believe in the FSM. hrmjustin May 2015 #140

Which is why you ban it from interfaith dialogue Yorktown May 2015 #141

I ban it because it is a joke on religion as skinner said today. hrmjustin May 2015 #142

Don't hide behind someone else Yorktown May 2015 #143

I answered this and i am not going in circles. hrmjustin May 2015 #144

Moses, Adam and Eve make a mockery of spirituality Yorktown May 2015 #145

May your faith give you comfort. hrmjustin May 2015 #146

Does the fictitious Moses give you comfort? Yorktown May 2015 #147

No he doesn't. Jesus gives me comfort. hrmjustin May 2015 #148

I'll save Jesus for another day. Moses today. Yorktown May 2015 #149

Sure. i question my faith all the time. hrmjustin May 2015 #150

No, you don't, or you'd question Moses. Yorktown May 2015 #151

Don't tell me what i do and don't do. hrmjustin May 2015 #152

I know what you told me: that you take Moses on faith Yorktown May 2015 #153

I think we are done for the night. hrmjustin May 2015 #155

Good night Yorktown May 2015 #156

That's how groups work. You're just going to have to enjoy your fun outside of the MADem May 2015 #154

I could not possibly be taken as evidence of such. Yorktown May 2015 #49

It's pretty convincing evidence. rug May 2015 #59

Conspiracy theory much? Yorktown May 2015 #104

Never mind. rug May 2015 #105

Interesting. hrmjustin May 2015 #11

Good. I suppose we can start interfaith dialogues then? Yorktown May 2015 #12

What do you want to talk about? hrmjustin May 2015 #13

How was the Universe created? Yorktown May 2015 #14

There was a big bang. hrmjustin May 2015 #15

Good. How did life appear on earth? Yorktown May 2015 #16

Life evolved on earth. hrmjustin May 2015 #17

What is the use of that allegory? Why two diverging ones? God inspired both? Yorktown May 2015 #18

Questions, questions so many questions. hrmjustin May 2015 #19

The Moses of the Bible is impossible Yorktown May 2015 #20

Then don't believe it. hrmjustin May 2015 #21

Why do you believe in it when I show you debunking proof? Yorktown May 2015 #22

Because i said so. hrmjustin May 2015 #23

So you bought a religion wholesale and won't rethink? Yorktown May 2015 #24

Enjoy your night. hrmjustin May 2015 #25

Cheerio Yorktown May 2015 #26

Bye. hrmjustin May 2015 #27

You have phil89 May 2015 #56

Lol i don't have any obligation to tell anybody anything. hrmjustin May 2015 #57

But those websites he pastes from are so persuasive. rug May 2015 #28

lol. hrmjustin May 2015 #29

As persuasive as any 'established' religion Yorktown May 2015 #30

Yah, the internet websites are rock solid. rug May 2015 #32

Oh, and the recap about Moses or the RCC saints are not copy/pastes from websites. Yorktown May 2015 #31

How 'bout you name just two. rug May 2015 #33

DOB's range 1600BCE-1400BCE; You will argue about the current dominant rabbinical date, I suppose? Yorktown May 2015 #34

Facinating thread. They say that feelings of love & hate for the same person is not uncommon. jonno99 May 2015 #36

Disbelieving me makes you a heretic. Yorktown May 2015 #38

An eleborate play - complete with props, jonno99 May 2015 #39

Nah, joke aside, I really never believed. Yorktown May 2015 #40

Two thoughts: jonno99 May 2015 #53

Evolution speaks to the vast diversity of life, not the origin. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #80

Yes that is true. hrmjustin May 2015 #82

For starters, what do you mean by "created"? LTX May 2015 #106

A linguistic allowance to religionists Yorktown May 2015 #107

I see. So your question was, to put it bluntly, bullshit. LTX May 2015 #112

No. I was phrasing my question the way religions put it. Yorktown May 2015 #115

I'm in awe. LTX May 2015 #121

The FSM was first proposed in Kansas to deal with the religious nut cases and then caught on Gothmog May 2015 #35

True, that's how the Truth of the Holy Flying Spaghetti Monster was mentioned in modern times. Yorktown May 2015 #37

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Excellent questions which show your commitment to understand the one true faith. Yorktown May 2015 #42

That didn't go as you planned. hrmjustin May 2015 #44

You already posted a few times the outcome of your PM to the administrators. Yorktown May 2015 #47

Are you going to respond to skinner? hrmjustin May 2015 #48

Sure. Yorktown May 2015 #50

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I find your need to insult me funny and sad. hrmjustin May 2015 #61

"He started it" truebrit71 May 2015 #62

Seriously! hrmjustin May 2015 #63

You are apparently... truebrit71 May 2015 #64

I am the one in kindergarten according to you. hrmjustin May 2015 #65

Um...need to brush up on your comprehension skills pal... truebrit71 May 2015 #66

oh? hrmjustin May 2015 #67

some people's schtick here is "are you calling me a ..." Warren Stupidity May 2015 #68

You think personal attacks are ok? hrmjustin May 2015 #69

Again with the comprehension issues... truebrit71 May 2015 #70

Again reading Reading is fundamental. hrmjustin May 2015 #71

Still stuck with comprehension issues I see... truebrit71 May 2015 #72

Lol but you said i was apparently and then used the crazy picture. hrmjustin May 2015 #74

reading is fundamental is an insult. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #73

Alert then. hrmjustin May 2015 #75

why? Warren Stupidity May 2015 #76

You seemed concerned i was insulting someone. hrmjustin May 2015 #77

You are the one constantly probing to see if somebody here could possibly be insulting you. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #78

Because i was. hrmjustin May 2015 #79

And a jury then said truebrit71 wasn't insulting you muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #81

Yes but he did put the crazy emoticon in that post. hrmjustin May 2015 #83

You think you were taking part in a sober, meaningful conversation? muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #84

Was mr. blur at fault at all or was it all on me? hrmjustin May 2015 #85

Do you realise mr blur and truebrit71 are 2 different posters? muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author hrmjustin May 2015 #87

mr blur insulted me. A jury agreed. hrmjustin May 2015 #88

'At fault' for what? Your sudden turn-around from laughing to feeling insulted? muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #89

I was upset but i forgot to add that. Do you think mr. blur was right? hrmjustin May 2015 #90

Whether you have a sense of humour or not can be judged by your posts in this thread muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #91

It is clear you want to blame me for the faults of others. hrmjustin May 2015 #92

Well, that was unexpected. Act_of_Reparation May 2015 #93

You alerted on that? truebrit71 May 2015 #94

i let my crazyiness get the better of me apparently. hrmjustin May 2015 #95

Uh huh...I'm sure it is... truebrit71 May 2015 #96

No those hides that you were talking to me were never from me. hrmjustin May 2015 #97

Uh huh... truebrit71 May 2015 #98

Believe what you want. hrmjustin May 2015 #99

But wait....you started it.... truebrit71 May 2015 #100

R'Amen! underpants May 2015 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer May 2015 #52

Well said. nt F4lconF16 May 2015 #58

I'm a believer, but I admit there are a few holes in the faith... Arugula Latte May 2015 #101

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New? Maybe for you, but Pastafarians have been around quite a long time. Panich52 May 2015 #157

'New' compared to the Bronze Age supertitions (religions) Yorktown May 2015 #158

read your response in ATA and you post in AA. hrmjustin May 2015 #159

10 signatures have been collected and a request in ATA has been logged :) (nt) LostOne4Ever May 2015 #160