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In reply to the discussion: Why religion is fading in the West [View all]Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)35. This thread should come with an aversive side-effects warning...
the fact is that atheism basic principle is materialism...that no other reality exist but the material...because to admit that there could be is to admit that they could be wrong.
No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
Atheism is a rejection of god claims and that's it. There are atheists who believe in ghosts... you gonna tell me they're materialists???
is not belief based on knowledge?
Nope. Knowledge is a subset of belief. There are things I believe, and among the things I believe there the things I know.

...you say you do not believe but admit it is not because you have knowledge?
If you find this confusing, I would suggest opening the closest dictionary. Look up the word "certainty" and get back to me.
...what is the difference between you and people of faith then because they believe too without knowledge...you are admitting that your belief in atheism is a matter of faith.
These equivocations are tiresome.
If you are using faith in the colloquial sense of the word--to believe something with some enthusiasm--then, yes, I have faith there are no gods.
But this is a dishonest deployment of the word, as it isn't what believers mean when they talk about "faith". What they describe as "faith" is a strong belief in the absence of evidence. And in that regard, no, I don't have faith that there are no gods. I simply reject claims to the existence of gods for a lack of evidence and compelling arguments to the contrary.
Is that not argument from abserdity?...who is claiming that the universe was created by a cheese sandwich?
The fact is that there is no proof that the universe was created at all...creation is a concept of time and time is only something we perceive. It may not even be real.
The fact is that there is no proof that the universe was created at all...creation is a concept of time and time is only something we perceive. It may not even be real.
No, it isn't an argument from absurdity. It's an illustration of why the burden of proof lies with the party making a claim and not the party rejecting it. My inability to conclusively prove a claim incorrect does not by virtue of itself lend said claim a single shred of plausibility.
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randr
May 2015
#2
"That is hair spliting...the fact is that atheism basic principle is materialism."
Warren Stupidity
May 2015
#34
belief that matter is all there is is the basis of the belief that god could not exist
AlbertCat
May 2015
#94
That is because you think they should have written for a 20th century audience.
zeemike
May 2015
#56
The point of my post was the remarkably pithy yet vacuous summary of Spinoza's philosophic writings.
LTX
May 2015
#91
I find this a curious response. You seem unwilling to commit yourself to any vehicle for
LTX
May 2015
#145
You mean like calling scientific theories "magic" and part of our atheist "belief system"?
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May 2015
#102
I'm blind because I corrrect your errors? You have an odd way of advancing a conversation.
Nitram
May 2015
#127
Wasn't your point that violent jihad is part of the famework of the beliefs of all Muslims?
Nitram
May 2015
#133
Light and sound are both waves, so it's stupid easy to convert one to the other
AtheistCrusader
May 2015
#15
The claim that the historicity of somebody resembling the jesus of the gospels
Warren Stupidity
May 2015
#12
a basic, fundamental tenant of christianity is that the man-god was sacrificed
Warren Stupidity
May 2015
#24
My understanding of christianity is based on the historic origins of christianity
Warren Stupidity
May 2015
#84
I was just gonna say, there's a Gnostic church down the road from my house.
Act_of_Reparation
May 2015
#146