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In reply to the discussion: Why religion is fading in the West [View all]NeoGreen
(4,036 posts)47. I understand Illing's statement to implicitly include...
..."from the perspective of the believer" in his list,
..because religion is much more than truth; it's about meaning (as proffered by churches/synagogues/mosques/shrines and as understood by a believer), values (as generally shared by believers, as a class), tradition (again, as shared by any given particular class {i.e. church} of believers), consolation (which I would argue is a Human emotional need, and which most current belief systems provide as a side benefit), community (built-in to the concept of a church, with believers unified around their particular shared tenets) and transcendence (a concept co-opted by religion {a secular person can transcend bigotry taught by their parents, no god required} and used to further their agendas)
It does not mean that religions "own" these ideas, they have just co-opted and conflated them for their use, and thus, atheist's should recognize that while arguments proffered solely from "truth" might win in philosophy departments they will be insufficient as a means to expose the practical day to day hypocrisy of adhering to long established, extensively buttressed, deeply entrenched, widely distributed and constantly defended belief in the supernatural by believers (as a class).
Just my 1.5 cents worth of contribution to this thread...
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randr
May 2015
#2
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Warren Stupidity
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#34
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May 2015
#94
That is because you think they should have written for a 20th century audience.
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#56
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May 2015
#91
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LTX
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#145
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May 2015
#102
I'm blind because I corrrect your errors? You have an odd way of advancing a conversation.
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May 2015
#127
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May 2015
#133
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May 2015
#15
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May 2015
#24
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May 2015
#84
I was just gonna say, there's a Gnostic church down the road from my house.
Act_of_Reparation
May 2015
#146