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(82,333 posts) Thu May 28, 2015, 11:52 AM May 2015

Phoenix Atheist Will Host “Draw Muhammad” Event Tonight Just Outside Local Mosque [View all]

May 28, 2015 by Hemant Mehta 111 Comments

I’ve said before that I don’t mind people who draw images of Muhammad if it’s done for good reason. Standing in solidarity with Charlie Hebdo? Doing it as a symbol of free speech? I could understand and defend those reasons.

Doing it to piss off Muslims or to draw attention to yourself? Now, you’re just being a dick.

Jon Ritzheimer (below) falls in that latter group.

He’s an atheist and former marine who’s taking a cue from Pamela Geller — never a good idea — and hosting a Draw Muhammad cartoon contest tonight in Phoenix.

And, just for full jackass-itude, he’s doing it outside a mosque.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/05/28/phoenix-atheist-will-host-draw-muhammad-event-tonight-just-outside-local-mosque/

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Phoenix Atheist Will Host “Draw Muhammad” Event Tonight Just Outside Local Mosque [View all] rug May 2015 OP

Why does it matter why? Kalidurga May 2015 #1

Well, for one thing, there's free spech, and then, there's being a dick, as Hemant put it. rug May 2015 #2

So what if he is being a dick? Kalidurga May 2015 #24

It gets better. rug May 2015 #32

nothing Kalidurga May 2015 #48

Being a dick isn't against the law either. n/t Jamastiene May 2015 #28

Neither is being a bigot. rug May 2015 #33

Luckily, free speech phil89 May 2015 #3

He must be a faitheist. rug May 2015 #4

The egomaniac is Jon Ritzheimer. cbayer May 2015 #11

I don't think he's saying... MellowDem May 2015 #13

What kind of mosque? HassleCat May 2015 #5

It's the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix. rug May 2015 #6

Such a sane, rational comment from Shami dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #7

As I suspected HassleCat May 2015 #8

Considering he believes in an imaginary friend boomer55 May 2015 #30

Making a diagbosis over the internet is more of a stretch. rug May 2015 #34

No diagbosis was made. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #49

I"ll take the guy with the imaginary friend over the guy without one in this scenario anyway. cbayer May 2015 #51

What would you call a person who believes in imaginary beings and does what those Warren Stupidity May 2015 #55

Outside the context of religion that's a pretty fair assessment I doubt too many would argue with Major Nikon May 2015 #97

Why do you suspect that? boomer55 May 2015 #70

Because she wants you to think that she has some authority here that you should be in awe of. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #72

Because I didn't think you would answer the question…. and you didn't. cbayer May 2015 #74

It is funny... MellowDem May 2015 #14

Islam is not an explicitly bigoted religion. There are people who are cbayer May 2015 #15

The Koran and Hadiths... MellowDem May 2015 #16

Yes, they can be interpreted differently cbayer May 2015 #17

The texts matter a great deal... MellowDem May 2015 #18

No, the texts are used and interpreted by the faithful. cbayer May 2015 #19

The texts do really matter... MellowDem May 2015 #20

You put way too much importance on the texts and not nearly cbayer May 2015 #21

I think we should have a "Draw Geller" day.nt okasha May 2015 #25

With skinheads for security. rug May 2015 #35

That's not very nice. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #98

Ok. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #99

would love to see yours. cbayer May 2015 #102

Holy shit that's dark. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #103

Post it when you finish it! cbayer May 2015 #105

Did you draw that yourself? AtheistCrusader May 2015 #109

No, I found it with the google. cbayer May 2015 #110

When evaluating a belief system... MellowDem May 2015 #40

"I'm not evaluting individuals here..." Leontius May 2015 #68

Democratic Underground? MellowDem May 2015 #73

So, hate speech is OK as long as it's not acted upon? Yorktown May 2015 #100

You're arguing about the importance of the Koran Rob H. May 2015 #22

So what? I'm arguing about the writings in a text being less important cbayer May 2015 #50

You still do not understand Yorktown May 2015 #54

I don't think you are correct in your assertion. MADem May 2015 #53

I don't demand they act fundamentalist... MellowDem May 2015 #57

Yes, that is what you are doing. You are insisting that they follow their religion the way YOU want MADem May 2015 #66

Bullshit... MellowDem May 2015 #67

The faithful? Faithful to what if not the texts? Yorktown May 2015 #41

Typical crazed muslin, as compared to the sane and rational Christian who is planning this. arcane1 May 2015 #27

Actally, Ritzheimer is a self-declared atheist. rug May 2015 #36

Darn, my sarcasm was poorly calibrated arcane1 May 2015 #37

Yeah, I really hate that "seen one (fill in the blank), seen 'em all" types. cbayer May 2015 #10

Once again, this isn't about free speech, this is about being an asshole. cbayer May 2015 #9

It's a shame that this clown gets interviewed on TV. Jim__ May 2015 #12

Oh Lord another idiot! hrmjustin May 2015 #23

I wonder if he's one of those "10 Commandments are the foundation of our legal system" idiots. arcane1 May 2015 #26

Somehow I doubt that. rug May 2015 #38

I don't know how I breezed right past that in the freakin' HEADLINE arcane1 May 2015 #39

Easy paycheck and notoriety from the RW fool crowd. blm May 2015 #29

I say he should demonstrate the courage of his convictions and have it in MECCA. Vincardog May 2015 #31

Why's that? Goblinmonger May 2015 #65

He would be surrounded by Muslims instead of Baptists. Who better to judge the contest? Vincardog May 2015 #69

This makes no sense. Why would an atheist care one way or the other ladjf May 2015 #42

Because of its potential danger to democracy? Yorktown May 2015 #46

I don't buy that reasoning. To me, it seems ladjf May 2015 #58

That particular event, yes. Yorktown May 2015 #63

If he's an atheist troll, it's a sure way to find victims. immoderate May 2015 #52

He's a hateful bigot. It has nothing to do with his atheism, imo. cbayer May 2015 #56

Yours is the most likely explanation. ladjf May 2015 #59

Thanks ladjf! cbayer May 2015 #60

Well at least you have a boat. I am boatless. ladjf May 2015 #61

I wish for you one day to have one of those things or cbayer May 2015 #62

I've already had them all. But, ladjf May 2015 #71

Ritzheimer appears to be an unsavory character. Yorktown May 2015 #43

Notice he is not doing this in Salt Lake City VanillaRhapsody May 2015 #76

I have my doubts about the bikers even showing up. okasha May 2015 #44

Nitwits all imagine themselves as edgy and witty struggle4progress May 2015 #45

I actually agree with rug on this edhopper May 2015 #47

Celebrating the right to be an idiot struggle4progress May 2015 #64

Protest heated but peaceful at Phoenix mosque cbayer May 2015 #75

Today's Daily Mail has many photos struggle4progress May 2015 #82

I think he lost this. He did not get the reaction he craved. cbayer May 2015 #84

Sure, because hating on people for making depictions of Muhammad is not at all like being a dick Major Nikon May 2015 #77

Oh, not, that would be very dickish indeed. cbayer May 2015 #78

I'm sure it did Major Nikon May 2015 #79

Well, if there was a negative response, it didn't get any press. cbayer May 2015 #80

He is a Charlie Hebdo Major Nikon May 2015 #81

Charlie Hedbo has content. It's political satire that pushes the edges. cbayer May 2015 #83

The content in question is religious satire Major Nikon May 2015 #85

Ok, feel free to put them in the same category. cbayer May 2015 #86

How many Charlie Hebdo cartoons have you seen? Major Nikon May 2015 #87

I've seen a lot of them, why? cbayer May 2015 #88

The link works fine on my end Major Nikon May 2015 #89

Why would bigotry filter it on my end? cbayer May 2015 #90

I've already told you what I think Major Nikon May 2015 #91

I agree with the title at your last link - Charlie Hebdo is heroic and racist. cbayer May 2015 #92

You do realize you just contradicted yourself, yes? Major Nikon May 2015 #93

No, I did not. I said that I did not think CH was pursuing a bigoted agenda cbayer May 2015 #94

So CH is a racist, but not a bigot Major Nikon May 2015 #95

You are so adept at pouncing on the message while never really showing your hand. cbayer May 2015 #96

I've only ever seen CH throw racism back in the faces of actual racists. AtheistCrusader May 2015 #104

Whether one finds their work racist or not is a matter of opinion, but cbayer May 2015 #106

This person is a very sick pos, he is a nothing. Thinkingabout May 2015 #101

well, this event happened and nobody shot anybody. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #107

Which side are you on, warren? rug May 2015 #108

Case in point. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #111

Ah, a non-answer. rug May 2015 #112

Knowing some surahs teach hate of the unbelievers, which side would you have been on? Yorktown May 2015 #113

In terms of this demonstration, absolutely I oppose the armed assholes stalking this mosque. rug Jun 2015 #114

I oppose both Yorktown Jun 2015 #115

The demonstrastors opposing the assholes were both Musllim and non-Muslim. rug Jun 2015 #116

Non muslims in the counter demonstration were useful idiots (Lenin's terms) Yorktown Jun 2015 #117

Why, I believe you jjust answered which side you're on. rug Jun 2015 #118

Jon Ritzheimer will not be hosting any more Ammosexual events anytime soon. stone space Mar 2016 #119

Not for 10 - 20. rug Mar 2016 #120