Why religion is fading in the West

[beam me up scottie]

102. You mean like calling scientific theories "magic" and part of our atheist "belief system"?

zeemike (16,823 posts)
182. Every belief system has it's dogmas laid down by the leaders.

In fact you ended with one...Magic.
The idea that if one observes something that defies the belief system it must be a magic trick of deception...and often it is and that lend credence to it.

But in general dogma is created by the leaders as tenants of the belief...this is what you must believe to be one of us.
The dogmas of atheism are no different in composition than any religion even though they take the opposite view...and this is true of any belief system...including science.

But look closer at every dogma...like the magic one...and you will see that even atheist believe in magic...like the Big Bang used to explain how it all got here, and as we learned more with better equipment we had a lot of unresolved things to explain it...so we invented other magic to explain it...dark matter, black holes, string theory...all so we could explain the mysteries that are all around us without discarding the basic big bang theory...Big Bang became the dogma of science.

And if any one of them doubts it he is out and ridiculed for it, so no one asks the question is time an illusion and there was no beginning and there is no end...that would be laughed at in science circles...of course time exist, look at the clock on the wall...we can observe time ticking away on the wall.

But these questions will be answered eventually...but not by the dogmatic approach to science and cosmology but by open minds.
And open minds do not seek to debunk other ideas but to learn from them...and yes you can learn from wrong ideas. The need to debunk them is to protect not to learn.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1218&pid=177662

These kind of discussions always end in this condescending manner.

What you can't argue with rhetoric you ridicule as ignorance.

What a hypocrite.