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AlbertCat

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34. jesus was born into a real ayn rand world....

Fri Apr 13, 2012, 11:07 AM

Apr 2012

Baloney.

She was an atheist. She was uber-selfish.

That is not the world Jesus was born into. He was born into a world full of superstitions, and that's what he continued to preach. All of Jesus' notions... including turning the other cheek, can be found elsewhere. His cult became useful to the Roman Empire, and thus we have it today.

It's kinda like Luther. Lots of folks decried the state of the Catholic church before Luther... they just got burned at the stake. But Luther came along at a time that was convenient for German leaders.

Religion is just ancient government.

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Religious Leaders Slam Ryan For Using Catholic Faith To Justify Cutting Programs That Help The Poor [View all] rug Apr 2012 OP

and what have these religious leaders done to help ? russspeakeasy Apr 2012 #1

These religious leaders in particular? rug Apr 2012 #2

How complete can a "community organization" really claim to be... trotsky Apr 2012 #6

Only if you believe atheists have no shared values with believers. rug Apr 2012 #8

Did you read the excerpt? trotsky Apr 2012 #11

Yeah. Did you? rug Apr 2012 #12

So what congregations do non-church-goers belong to? n/t trotsky Apr 2012 #13

Ask them. rug Apr 2012 #14

I'm one. I don't belong to any faith-based congregations. trotsky Apr 2012 #15

In the upper hand corner of their home page is a map. rug Apr 2012 #16

When you get a response back from the Black Nonbelievers of Chicago trotsky Apr 2012 #17

I am unsurprised. rug Apr 2012 #18

Catholic community service organizations serve clients without regard to the client's religion. And pnwmom Apr 2012 #22

I am merely pointing out language - the language of exclusion. trotsky Apr 2012 #24

I see nothing exclusionary about the statement, which merely states pnwmom Apr 2012 #25

Of course you don't. trotsky Apr 2012 #28

You aren't being excluded either. They have employees of every religion and no religion, pnwmom Apr 2012 #29

I'm talking about PICO. trotsky Apr 2012 #30

Yeah, right. How many atheist organizations are headed by religious people? pnwmom Apr 2012 #31

I dunno, can you point to any community service organizations founded by trotsky Apr 2012 #32

My point addresses yours directly. You're complaining that atheists aren't part of the leadership pnwmom Apr 2012 #37

Nope, you are arguing against your own strawman then. trotsky Apr 2012 #39

They're free to found community service organizations based on their beliefs -- or lack thereof. AlbertCat Apr 2012 #33

Wrong. Non-profit charitable organizations are tax-exempt pnwmom Apr 2012 #38

There is a lot going on and it gets posted about here frequently. cbayer Apr 2012 #4

Well, that 's not really the point here, is it? mr blur Apr 2012 #5

+1 LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #10

Obama himself worked with Catholic community service organizations that helped the poor. pnwmom Apr 2012 #20

Keep calling the out on this. Bravo. cbayer Apr 2012 #3

Kudos ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #7

jesus was born into a real ayn rand world.... madrchsod Apr 2012 #23

And every word out of ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2012 #26

jesus was born into a real ayn rand world.... AlbertCat Apr 2012 #34

Glad to hear it! LeftishBrit Apr 2012 #9

Mother Theresa springs to mind nt mr blur Apr 2012 #27

ryan is so out of touch with reality.... madrchsod Apr 2012 #19

Maybe they will back their talk up and excommunicate him. jwirr Apr 2012 #21

No, they save that punishment for only the most egregious offenses. trotsky Apr 2012 #35

As much as I dislike the RCC's stances on abortion, gay people, women, and child rape, ZombieHorde Apr 2012 #36