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In reply to the discussion: How sure are you that atheists don't "get" religion? [View all]BlueMTexpat
(15,701 posts)32. No problem on my part with that.
I also come from a fairly extensive religious background, but found that even when I was very young and much more naive and susceptible I hated the arbitrary and theological distinctions that religions made among themselves in deciding who is "worthy" and who isn't. Also, as a female, I simply could not believe that I am the lesser being, which is what the majority of established religions teach, or that those who are not practitioners of the religion in which I was raised are forever damned. And what the heck does "damned" mean anyway? When I see the extremely wretched lives that too many here on earth live, including watching their loved ones starve, die or be tortured, I simply cannot imagine that a Hell after death could be worse. Many of those who are suffering are firm believers. If it helps them endure, fine. But I wonder what kind of sadistic Supreme Being would put them through it or why. To "test their faith" is a too-easy cop-out answer, IMO.
My hesitation to cross the line is based more on a "gut" feeling than on any logic. For me, the idea of God has always been more like the allegory of the blind men and the elephant, where each blind man describes the part of the elephant that he personally experiences and insists that is what the elephant is. In fact, the elephant is none of those, nor is it even the sum of those, it is something entirely outside the blind men's experience.
But the point about being atheists being well-informed is an excellent one. In my experience, non-Christians often have a better understanding about what Christianity should be than many Christians do and they are certainly better informed about Christianity's beliefs and tenets than most Christians are about Christianity, let alone any non-Christian religion.
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There are an awful lot of my fellow "religionists" who don't "get" religion.
Common Sense Party
Apr 2012
#3
Being an atheist doesn't mean the person must deny the possibility of something like a deity exists.
eqfan592
Apr 2012
#14
You are quite welcome glad to straighten out your gross ignorance on the issue.
Leontius
Apr 2012
#106
I'm sure you do and I understand your position on my statement and at one time felt the same.
Leontius
Apr 2012
#107
How about the man who constantly says that only someone "internal" to the faith
darkstar3
Apr 2012
#31
I don't hate religion. I hate what religious people do in the name of their religion,
darkstar3
Apr 2012
#69
If one starts from a negative and dismissive position on either, it is highly unlikely one will
cbayer
Apr 2012
#52
Since I cannot crawl inside your mind--or your heart, which is even more important--
Thats my opinion
Apr 2012
#83
Probably about two seconds flat sadly, but at least maybe within our own group...
eqfan592
Apr 2012
#76
L Ron Hubbard had a real feel for religion. Hard to deny that he got it all too well. n/t
dimbear
Apr 2012
#33
My guess is they understand a version of religion that few thinking people hold.
Thats my opinion
Apr 2012
#64
What you don't seem to get is that you attribute this "thinking faith" to far more people
darkstar3
Apr 2012
#70
I know full well that the majority of religionists do not have the POV I represent.
Thats my opinion
Apr 2012
#84
Start with the religion departments at Yale, Princeton, Harvard, the University of Chicago,
Thats my opinion
Apr 2012
#88
No thanks. No response will ever be enough to pry open a closed mind. nt
Thats my opinion
Apr 2012
#95