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66. They need a physical substrate for recording and processing symbols

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Challenge To Theists [View all] SamG Apr 2012 OP

Tnx for that waste of 1:32 minutes of my life (eom) WhatintheWorld Apr 2012 #1

I think that somehow you will manage. cleanhippie Apr 2012 #2

Well I don't make videos and I don't convert atheist. zeemike Apr 2012 #3

I think you might want to look up "special pleading". darkstar3 Apr 2012 #4

OK you caught me...spelled it wrong...I edited it. zeemike Apr 2012 #5

4 dimensional world of matter? laconicsax Apr 2012 #9

it never fails to show up. zeemike Apr 2012 #15

You can protect yourself by taking a simple preventative measure: laconicsax Apr 2012 #16

The n tama Apr 2012 #23

And making it about my not calling time a variable dimension is not? zeemike Apr 2012 #32

I'm not tama Apr 2012 #33

And thanks for that. zeemike Apr 2012 #39

There is observable striking parallel tama Apr 2012 #41

I put much of the blame on fundamentalist Christians and fundamentalist in general for this zeemike Apr 2012 #44

Dimesions aren't numbered. laconicsax Apr 2012 #51

As a thought experiment tama Apr 2012 #57

That is the point. laconicsax Apr 2012 #62

The point was really tama Apr 2012 #64

Sorry tama, you don't get to decide what my point was. laconicsax Apr 2012 #65

There are also cylindrical and spherical coordinates in three dimensions FarCenter Apr 2012 #67

Let's not confuse the issue with more facts, shall we? laconicsax Apr 2012 #68

No, tama Apr 2012 #72

Sorry I will never change it zeemike Apr 2012 #30

If you're unwilling to make an effort, don't complain when it impacts you. laconicsax Apr 2012 #52

And I never have before. zeemike Apr 2012 #54

If you're afraid to share an idea because it'll be ridiculed, maybe it's a dumb idea. laconicsax Apr 2012 #55

Your ridicule is just dumb nt. tama Apr 2012 #58

Good one! What's next? "I'm paper, you're glue?" laconicsax Apr 2012 #61

Well tama Apr 2012 #27

So there is matter and anti matter. zeemike Apr 2012 #34

Antimatter tama Apr 2012 #40

I am sure they do zeemike Apr 2012 #45

That's like saying logic only operates in the southern hemisphere... Silent3 Apr 2012 #17

The southern hemisphere is a material concept zeemike Apr 2012 #35

You're confusing physical laws and logic Silent3 Apr 2012 #42

Logic is all based on what we know of the physical world zeemike Apr 2012 #43

You've logically concluded that there must be worlds without logic? Silent3 Apr 2012 #46

Logic is not a physical object that exists outside of our mind zeemike Apr 2012 #53

Did logic exist before it was invented by the Greeks? (or the Chinese or Indians?) FarCenter Apr 2012 #56

Or tama Apr 2012 #60

They need a physical substrate for recording and processing symbols FarCenter Apr 2012 #66

I have no answer for that. zeemike Apr 2012 #71

Logic is a whole hell of a lot more consistent... Silent3 Apr 2012 #63

I am arguing for being open to other possibilities zeemike Apr 2012 #69

What narrative goes like that? eqfan592 Apr 2012 #70

No the last thing I want to do is expand this zeemike Apr 2012 #73

Whenever someone wants people to be "open to other possibilities"... Silent3 Apr 2012 #74

Very good tama Apr 2012 #59

Dimensions tama Apr 2012 #28

I read a book many years ago zeemike Apr 2012 #29

Mathematicians tama Apr 2012 #31

I have never really understood imaginary numbers zeemike Apr 2012 #36

Real numbers tama Apr 2012 #38

Or quaternions and octonions FarCenter Apr 2012 #50

What a rube! It's pretty hard to say that something has been debunked, when humblebum Apr 2012 #6

Two problems: 1. You're engaging in the special pleading fallacy. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #8

"in light of current knowledge." - There is no current humblebum Apr 2012 #11

Current knowledge shows that both arguments are no more or less than supposition. darkstar3 Apr 2012 #12

Yes, the Emperor's invisible clothes are so finely woven...only rigid people PassingFair Apr 2012 #10

All you have to do to debunk a supposed "proof"... Silent3 Apr 2012 #18

Ontological and teleological arguments do not arrive at an humblebum Apr 2012 #19

Well, there you go then. Silent3 Apr 2012 #20

If you live in that very narrow world where that very narrow mindset humblebum Apr 2012 #21

Those tired old theological arguments... Silent3 Apr 2012 #22

In your very narrow world and narrow mindset, that's humblebum Apr 2012 #24

Yes, I keeping forgetting... Silent3 Apr 2012 #25

Challenges are for people who might be inclined Speck Tater Apr 2012 #7

Then what's the point of discussion at all? trotsky Apr 2012 #26

Bingo! Speck Tater Apr 2012 #47

Huh Silent3 Apr 2012 #48

Oh, yeah. That too. Thanks for reminding me! :) nt Speck Tater Apr 2012 #49

I have a challenge. rug Apr 2012 #13

:) Jim__ Apr 2012 #14

He gets extra mega-points edhopper Apr 2012 #37