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drm604

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54. Interesting article.

Tue Sep 8, 2015, 08:13 AM

Sep 2015

According to the article her objection is to having her name on the licenses. If this is true then it seems like this whole thing could be settled by what the article suggests:

And allowing all marriage licenses and certificates — for opposite-sex marriages or same-sex ones — to include a deputy clerk’s name, or just the notation “Rowan County Clerk,” wouldn’t jeopardize any compelling government interest. To be sure, it would have to be clear that this modification is legally authorized, and doesn’t make the license and certificate invalid. But a court that grants Davis’s RFRA exemption request could easily issue an order that makes this clear.

It would be galling to accommodate her in this matter, but it could make the whole thing go away, including the publicity and the martyrdom aspect. It would remove an issue that Republicans are using to stir up their base and it wouldn't violate anyone's rights nor make things any more difficult for couples requesting licenses. As long as it's done for all licenses then everyone is being treated the same.

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When does your religion legally excuse you from doing part of your job? [View all] rug Sep 2015 OP

NEVER! Cartoonist Sep 2015 #1

That's not the law. rug Sep 2015 #3

I was responding to the question. Cartoonist Sep 2015 #5

The essay, rather lengthy, answers it. rug Sep 2015 #7

So you're calling cartoonist foolish Lordquinton Sep 2015 #8

You, and the jury you'll alert, would know if I called him a fool. rug Sep 2015 #9

"Don't you get tired of your jury games?" Says the guy who alert stalked while on forced vacation. cleanhippie Sep 2015 #10

I find it interesting that that is your only comment, albeit a stupid one, on the OP. rug Sep 2015 #12

Is that the Callous Dolts? Or the Dallas Colts? Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #13

See #12. rug Sep 2015 #14

Lol, exactly! cleanhippie Sep 2015 #15

Someone seems bitter Lordquinton Sep 2015 #16

Yup, bitter indeed! cleanhippie Sep 2015 #20

Are you bitter that you can't post cartoons with impnity in here any more? rug Sep 2015 #22

Bitter you can't post right wing sources with impunity here anymore? Lordquinton Sep 2015 #37

Bitter you can come up with nothing of substance so you're reduced to pousting ad hominem bullshit? rug Sep 2015 #39

Don't you get the fact that this poster was responding with his/her own opinion... Silent3 Sep 2015 #19

Opinions, to be considered, should be informed by facts. rug Sep 2015 #21

Facts about current law don't add much... Silent3 Sep 2015 #23

If you're talking about religion and American society, the hell it does. rug Sep 2015 #24

Referring to the article could be part of defending having a different view... Silent3 Sep 2015 #25

Or, it could be what i said: read the article which answers the question. rug Sep 2015 #27

Although the question was "When does your religion legally excuse you from doing part of your job?" Silent3 Sep 2015 #40

Except privilege is an important part of this case Lordquinton Sep 2015 #30

The law is what curbs privilege. rug Sep 2015 #31

"The law is what curbs privilege." Lordquinton Sep 2015 #34

Of course it is. Oh, wait, you didn't read the article. rug Sep 2015 #35

"At the risk of diverting you from posting smileys" Lordquinton Sep 2015 #36

Her? The one put in jail by the law? rug Sep 2015 #38

Maybe if this were the HoF, or the AA room your comment would matter Lordquinton Sep 2015 #47

Do you think gender matters only in the HoF? rug Sep 2015 #48

I don't deny that cruz and i are both male Lordquinton Sep 2015 #56

That's a start. rug Sep 2015 #57

Looks like you touched a nerve. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #41

Oh my lord, we've got us a defender of the dreadful Kim. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #43

Yep! Atheists are criticizing her so they must be wrong! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #45

If you get that ot if this thread, you're deeper in the hole than I thought. rug Sep 2015 #51

And who is that, Warren? Or are you reverting to make-up-shit mode? rug Sep 2015 #50

And people who claim persecoution for their (non)beliefs don't like to know their legal remedies. rug Sep 2015 #49

this doesn't even relate to the case at hand. when she got the job, there was no gay marriage. unblock Sep 2015 #26

But her job requires her to follow the law of the land as well Lordquinton Sep 2015 #29

i'm not defending her, her arguments are certainly terrible. unblock Sep 2015 #32

If you want her "to follow the law of the land", maybe you shold know what that is. rug Sep 2015 #33

Like a dolt of lightning, the mysterious 'u' key failure occurs right down thread. Warren Stupidity Sep 2015 #44

Warren, we were wrong Lordquinton Sep 2015 #46

What is a miracle is that you claim to be gided by reason. rug Sep 2015 #52

The Problem with that is that she knew very well that the laws can change LostOne4Ever Sep 2015 #42

The infinite array of possible religious objections based on rule of God are all made irrelevant by....the rule of law. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #2

Can a prospective employer ask an applicant about her willingness/ability to perform certain jobs? Jim__ Sep 2015 #4

Not only can they, but it's a 'best practice,' if done correctly. TygrBright Sep 2015 #6

Thanks. That makes sense. Good interviewing should avoid problems - n/t Jim__ Sep 2015 #11

Then the employer could be strolling EvilAL Sep 2015 #18

There has to be a line drawn somewhere EvilAL Sep 2015 #17

No, the line is far from clear. I posted the article because it's the most concise smmary of the law rug Sep 2015 #28

How about this one: PassingFair Sep 2015 #53

Interesting they chose to photoshop a picture with a Sikh in it. rug Sep 2015 #58

Yeah, I'm sure there are EvilAL Sep 2015 #55

Interesting article. drm604 Sep 2015 #54

That's an interesting thought, have the Office, not the official, register. rug Sep 2015 #59