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Humanist_Activist

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8. The problem with Sam Harris is similar to Hitchens towards the end, and a lot of people...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 04:59 AM
Oct 2015

9/11 kinda broke them.

Smart people, stupid ideas, particularly when it comes to Islam, its like they lost their reason.

The biggest problem is this, and this is true of everyone who is so concerned about everything from Islamic terrorism to the so called Islamic invasion of Europe. Islam is not an existential threat to modern nation states. There is not going to be a huge, USSR threat coming from ISIS or any other radical and terroristic group. Nor do Muslims, in general, pose a threat to anyone.

However, this isn't to say Islam is harmless, it is obviously not, but the ones most victimized by radical Muslims are other Muslims, sometimes even ones who share the same radical beliefs, but are of a different gender. In the areas of the world where radical, fundamentalist and strict Sharia Law Muslims propagate, they are a localized threat.

Islam is a religion full of harmful, outdated and primitive ideas about a lot of issues, a problem it shares with Christianity and Judaism, unfortunately, radicalism simply occurs more often in Islamic majority societies than it does in the other two. Though there should be increasing concern over Jewish settler and Ultra-Orthodox terrorism and discrimination along with radical Christian violence discrimination as well. Particularly in Israel and Sub-Saharan Africa.

Obviously, due to the great moderating effect of secularism in most nations that are majority Christian, the radicals of such countries are very isolated, almost powerless, and generally not active. It seems the problem is the lack of secularism, pluralism, and institutions to strengthen these that is causing problems the world over with religious violence and oppression.

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Why limit it to Islam? Cartoonist Oct 2015 #1
Just say it: Sam Harris is a racist warmonger bananas Oct 2015 #3
Excuse me? Cartoonist Oct 2015 #4
The article in the OP was written by Sam Harris. bananas Oct 2015 #5
Then respond to the OP Cartoonist Oct 2015 #7
No mistake, I was responding to you. nt bananas Oct 2015 #9
Could you elaborate? Cartoonist Oct 2015 #10
And it was also written by Maajid Nawaz. Who are you saying he's racist against? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2015 #17
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, former Muslim, is apparently racist against Muslims too. trotsky Oct 2015 #18
I heard Leslie Hazelton (white) call Ayaan Hirsi Ali (black) a racist Yorktown Oct 2015 #29
That appears to be the desired effect. trotsky Oct 2015 #34
Ayaan Hirsi Ali: a war promoter and the darling of right-wing war-mongering atheists cpwm17 Oct 2015 #31
But is she racist against Muslims? trotsky Oct 2015 #33
I wouldn't think so. cpwm17 Oct 2015 #35
Do you think her experience growing up Muslim should be dismissed? n/t trotsky Oct 2015 #36
She is just one person out of over 1.5 billion people that have grown up Muslim cpwm17 Oct 2015 #37
Would you say she lies more or less than Reza Aslan? n/t trotsky Oct 2015 #38
Cenk Uygur on Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and to a lesser extent Sam Harris: cpwm17 Oct 2015 #32
Islam is a race? trotsky Oct 2015 #11
Heh! Usually I see this arguement in the form... stone space Oct 2015 #12
Are you really loading up with "Islam is a race" ammo? cleanhippie Oct 2015 #13
Offensive and false. stone space Oct 2015 #14
Inoffensive and true. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #15
Couching every statement that you make... stone space Oct 2015 #20
Hemmingway said you should write drunk and edit sober. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2015 #21
Wow, you're in full-auto right now. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #23
Offensive and false, but........ stone space Oct 2015 #24
Your usual incoherence has devolved into stupefyingly funny madness. cleanhippie Oct 2015 #25
Aw geez, you're back again already? trotsky Oct 2015 #16
But Islam ISN'T a race, is it? Surely even you know that? mr blur Oct 2015 #19
Well I'd like to discuss those religions who are destroying antient artifacts yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #26
You probably saw I disrespect most religions Yorktown Oct 2015 #27
Sam Harris Tricks Naive Atheists Into Being Neocons bananas Oct 2015 #2
The presenter of this video said something quite asinine (@3:00+) Yorktown Oct 2015 #28
Sam Harris is a neocon asshole. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #6
Exercpt here casts serious doubt Harris is a neocon Yorktown Oct 2015 #30
The problem with Sam Harris is similar to Hitchens towards the end, and a lot of people... Humanist_Activist Oct 2015 #8
Sam Harris is awful. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2015 #22
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